[PhiloChan]

In any given revolution there is always the opposing side of the revolution. Such was the case with the early CPC and the monarchists and so was the case with the colonists and the red coats and such was the case in about every other conflict in history.
The biggest question though is what do you do when the people win? What do you do when the power is given to the people and the former state crumbles. Surely all of the counter revolutionists won't just drop their weapons and assimilate.
How do you assimilate those who found favor in a capitalist world where the richest were gods and the peasants were air. Just as the common man cannot desire that such power be taken away from, so does the wealthy man who dislikes the power of his currency being taken away from him.

[mikema63]

Depends on the context.

Are they a large threat?

Do they receive outside funding?

etc. etc.

Depending on a variety of things we might have radically different responses. An armed rebellion would have to be fought, but if at all possible I would want them to at least have a voice. We should be wary of putting people with legitimate criticisms into the gulag. Besides, totalitarian dictatorships seem not to work out well for us.

[PhiloChan]

Depends on the context.

Are they a large threat?

Do they receive outside funding?

etc. etc.

Depending on a variety of things we might have radically different responses. An armed rebellion would have to be fought, but if at all possible I would want them to at least have a voice. We should be wary of putting people with legitimate criticisms into the gulag. Besides, totalitarian dictatorships seem not to work out well for us.

I am not giving a specific situation. I am instead giving a broad hypothetical event that can have any situation comprising of it.

I would clarify this though.

A) Such a nation that endures a socialist revolution will most likely be a massive global power such as America, Germany, Japan or England.
B) Do to the prevalence of such countries they will most likely be inter connected and obvious have plenty of exterior funding.
C) The counter-revolutionaries will most likely be willing to engage in acts of violence as many of them will consists of the wealthy and thus be the most desperate.

Essentially just imagine the most realistic situation possible.

I personally agree with you and prefer taking the most pacifistic approach possible

[Potemkin]

In any given revolution there is always the opposing side of the revolution. Such was the case with the early CPC and the monarchists and so was the case with the colonists and the red coats and such was the case in about every other conflict in history.
The biggest question though is what do you do when the people win? What do you do when the power is given to the people and the former state crumbles. Surely all of the counter revolutionists won't just drop their weapons and assimilate.
How do you assimilate those who found favor in a capitalist world where the richest were gods and the peasants were air. Just as the common man cannot desire that such power be taken away from, so does the wealthy man who dislikes the power of his currency being taken away from him.

During the American Revolution in the late 18th century, approximately a third of the population of the American colonies were Loyalists, who actively opposed the Revolution. Following the success of the Revolution (with French help, of course), these Loyalists - fully a third of the population at the time - were forcibly expelled from the newly minted 'United States of America'. Most of them ended up as refugees in Canada, among other places. This was, in fact, one of the earliest examples of 'ethnic cleansing' in modern history. It was, of course, an absolutely necessary task for the revolutionary government, if their regime was to have any long-term future at all.

[PhiloChan]

In any given revolution there is always the opposing side of the revolution. Such was the case with the early CPC and the monarchists and so was the case with the colonists and the red coats and such was the case in about every other conflict in history.
The biggest question though is what do you do when the people win? What do you do when the power is given to the people and the former state crumbles. Surely all of the counter revolutionists won't just drop their weapons and assimilate.
How do you assimilate those who found favor in a capitalist world where the richest were gods and the peasants were air. Just as the common man cannot desire that such power be taken away from, so does the wealthy man who dislikes the power of his currency being taken away from him.

During the American Revolution in the late 18th century, approximately a third of the population of the American colonies were Loyalists, who actively opposed the Revolution. Following the success of the Revolution (with French help, of course), these Loyalists - fully a third of the population at the time - were forcibly expelled from the newly minted 'United States of America'. Most of them ended up as refugees in Canada, among other places. This was, in fact, one of the earliest examples of 'ethnic cleansing' in modern history. It was, of course, an absolutely necessary task for the revolutionary government, if their regime was to have any long-term future at all.[/quote]

I recall learning about this. It was a massive departure from the American glorification of the revolution which seems to be so clean and momentous than what it was. It was thanks to Thomas Paine that enough momentum got started but even that was not enough. But the American did win the war surprisingly and exceeded the English economy by leaps and bounds

[Decky]

In the pot, in the pot, in the pot!



It's the kindest thing to do.

[KlassWar]

Expropriate all the bourgeoisie's assets, ban all anticommunist organizations, shut down all right wing media, shoot all right wing leaders, propagandists and intellectuals without fail, send all the soldiers of the class enemy to the GULAG to be reeducated through labor and propaganda. Disfranchise all known right wingers. Make the rehabilitated actively cooperate in the destruction of the right to make sure they burn their bridges.

Keep the left well armed and organized, and keep tabs on all known oppositionists to make sure any counterrevolutionary activity can be met with Red Terror.

[Decky]

Why not allow them to feed the revolution?

[KlassWar]

Because cannibalism can cause all sorts of degenerative prion diseases? The KRs are more useful as forced labor, anyway.

[Decky]

I'm sure it's fine in moderation.

[PhiloChan]

In the pot, in the pot, in the pot!



It's the kindest thing to do.

*gags*
You wouldn't happen to be related to Issei Sagawa would ya?

Expropriate all the bourgeoisie's assets, ban all anticommunist organizations, shut down all right wing media, shoot all right wing leaders, propagandists and intellectuals without fail, send all the soldiers of the class enemy to the GULAG to be reeducated through labor and propaganda. Disfranchise all known right wingers. Make the rehabilitated actively cooperate in the destruction of the right to make sure they burn their bridges.

Keep the left well armed and organized, and keep tabs on all known oppositionists to make sure any counterrevolutionary activity can be met with Red Terror.

I fully agree with you here . I personally am not that fond of violence, combat and especially of all things war. I actually refuse to kill people even in video games .
The existence of the counter-revolutionaries is best put to use. I am all for forced labor on behave of the people. The enemy of the people can surely well function as the beasts of burden for the people. I know that many people will speak against suffering and torture but I would not classify forced labor as torture if it is done with decency.

[Decky]

You wouldn't happen to be related to Issei Sagawa would ya?

No, why do you ask? I had never heard of the gentleman in question until now.

[PhiloChan]

No, why do you ask? I had never heard of the gentleman in question until now.

It seems if you and him would get along very nicely. If you love French girls the way he does then you guys would be chums

[Decky]

The guy fucked the corpse before he ate her, that's fucking sick.

[PhiloChan]

The guy fucked the corpse before he ate her, that's fucking sick.

. . . says Charles Manson.
So you believe in procreating with your victims before hand as oppose to being dead?
So if you wish to cannibalize the counter revolutionaries you are proposing giant industrial pots and large cans of seasoning .
Here I am offering to ensure the subjugation of the opposition through labor camps thinking it is sane

[Decky]

I won't hear a word said against Cheeky Charlie, he never killed anyone! All he did was torture that one guy and it is a stain on the American justice system that he is still in prison.

[ComradeTim]

I personally am not that fond of violence, combat and especially of all things war. I actually refuse to kill people even in video games .

I actually have a giant gold and black Che silhouette on my wall

Tsk, tsk. Che "Firing Squad" Guevara is turning in his grave.

"Crazy with fury I will stain my rifle red while slaughtering any enemy that falls in my hands! My nostrils dilate
while savoring the acrid odor of gunpowder and blood. With the deaths of my enemies I prepare my being for
the sacred fight and join the triumphant proletariat with a bestial howl!"
"Hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his
natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing machine. This is
what our soldiers must become … "

[PhiloChan]

Tsk, tsk. Che "Firing Squad" Guevara is turning in his grave.



"Crazy with fury I will stain my rifle red while slaughtering any enemy that falls in my hands! My nostrils dilate
while savoring the acrid odor of gunpowder and blood. With the deaths of my enemies I prepare my being for
the sacred fight and join the triumphant proletariat with a bestial howl!"
"Hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his
natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing machine. This is
what our soldiers must become … "

Che is one of the few men who can make me aroused . I would do anything for him!
But in all due honesty. I could stomach some deaths though. . .*cough* 习近平*COUGH COUGH*.

[Lightman]

Potemkin, that's simply untrue. The majority of Loyalists remained in the United States after the revolution; about 15% fled. There was no organized campaign of deportation.

[Potemkin]

Stop trying to confuse me with the facts, Lightman! To the Gulag with you!