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By MB.
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The Prime Minister of Iraq spoke of his "government of technocrats".

He hopes to build an apolitical, scientific technocracy.

Does he mean it? Will it happen?
By Khalq
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This most probably won't happen. The word technocracy/tic has been wrongly used and abused for the last decades to mean any government which departments are headed by "professionals" in the same or a similar field, for instance a general as defence minister or a former teacher as an education minister.
The structure of all governmental institutions will not change. They will still be based on the price system, sectarian politics and have a religious character.
It has nothing to do with what Technocracy Inc proposes.
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By Oxymoron
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I am waiting for the day that SkyNet becomes operational.
By Khalq
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On the contrary, I think a unified Middle East (and especially the region once called the Fertile Crescent) would solve many problems, would be a superpower and would make technocracy more possible than ever.
This region is very rich in natural resources (water, fossil fuel, etc). Since we are talking about it, Iraq has petroleum, gas, phosphates and sulfur.
If we could get rid of all those liberal/capitalist, monarchic and US-backed states and with proper handling of some parasitic elements, the whole political problem would be solved: no more external influence, no more Israeli/Palestinian problem, no more fundamentalism, etc.
This region has an educated population and education would improve much more once those inefficient and autocratic states have been dealt with. A high level of technology is not so difficult to attain once you have reached a certain level of knowledge and have secured the right technical means.
This region definitely needs a political and cultural revolution but one cannot deny it is already evolving by giant leaps.
By Khalq
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all I've seen is an invasion by the US that has further destabilized the region, and fueled a huge rise in extremist sects.

The situation in Iraq is surely deplorable. It is probably going through the worst period in its modern history. But this doesn't mean it can't be undone.
Fundamentalists are present everywhere in the world and they just need the right conditions to cause havoc (like a war), but they surely are not the majority. Such a scourge is caused more by misery and ignorance in the poorest strata where people get successfully manipulated by a bunch of opportunists, than by some kind of zealous adherence to a religious ideology.
Most people in the Middle East want change and they are definitely against fundamentalism. They are seeking better lives and are getting tired of their governments and of the whole mess. Even the most reactionary regimes will eventually bend under pressure.

I don't think that a united middle east is even possible until the US stops its meddling, which is just one of many reasons why we need a technate in North America first to put an end to all that

The rise of new powers like China and a possible resurrection of Russia might aid in shifting the US regime's focus away from the Middle East. Other than that, I agree the only other possible solution is the end of the current regime in the USA.

Then the work can be done on uniting the place (good luck)

A lot of religious and secular movements, whether pan-Arabic or pan-Islamic, have been trying to achieve this. Such movements have existed for more than a century (some of these ideas date back to the first Islamic conquests, like the "Islamic Umma") and have been very popular at different times before being persecuted by colonial invaders and by the regimes that replaced them. But without external intervention, with proper handling of parasites and with mutual respect between different nationalities and religious and ethnical minorities, nothing can prevent the Middle East from doing a better job than the EU.

if there's any oil, water, and arable land left

Yes, that might be a problem, but not only for the Middle East. With the abuse of natural resources, with radical climate changes in the near future and a rise in temperature by several degrees in the next decades, the Mediterranean and African regions could be the first affected, but it would inevitably turn into a worldwide catastrophe. Just imagine those regions becoming totally uninhabitable and hundreds of millions of people being forced to flee to the "north". Imagine the reaction of the "northern" countries and all the possible scenarios (eg: genocide). One more reason to put an end to the current regime before it's too late.

and even then most likely only to join a larger technate, such as Asia, Europe, or Africa.

Yes, a technate on such a scale would definitely be a logical outcome.

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