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voxlashi wrote:These awards aren't mutually exclusive, and it isn't fair to refrain from awarding the more prestigious golden ball to a player just because he received another award.


It isn't fair when the difference between is clear, not when it is fuzzy.

voxlashi wrote:You can't give a player an award based on the fact that he's closed down more often than other players. He's the best player in the world, but he still needs to merit his awards. In this case, he didn't.


Of coarse you can, because you have to consider the level of difficulty of his run, of his pass, of his dribble which is also relative to the position of his teammates. It is not the same rating a player versus one player(one-on-one) as opposed to versus 3 or 4 which is standard fare for Messi. On a one-on-one basis Messi is the finest player in the world cup and possibly in history as well.

voxlashi wrote:How is Argentina a "crap" team? Save for some subs, the entire squad plays for major European clubs. Besides, Mascherano played brilliantly, and had deserved the award more than Messi.


Mascherano did play well, but the team was not a team, it was a patchwork, the players were not structured and disciplined and the system they were playing was not suitable. Argentina was not a structured team, the players were not in place and Messi was not playing as a striker, he was playing as midfielder-playmaker. How many passes did Messi miss because his teammates were not where they should have been and despite all that Argentina still had the better chances than Germany, on whose account other than Messi himself?

Thomas Muller (or even Bastian Schweinsteiger) would have been a more deserving winner of the Golden Ball award.


Muller definitely no, Schweinsteiger was a close contestant imo.
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Schweinsteiger was epic an not only in the final.

Soulflytribe wrote:At least we beat Germany's 2006 World Cup in overall number of tickets sold and average attendance per match! Take that Dr. Cosmo!

[In French] http://www.lesoir.be/598416/article/bresil-2014/2014-07-13/un-total-3429873-spectateurs-ont-assiste-aux-64-matchs-du-mondial

Actually the idea behind the design in the German stadiums was to build them to a size where they would be sustainable -meaning nearly sold out every week in the Bundesliga:

Average attendance for the 2013-14 season so farRank League Total Attendance Average per game
1st Bundesliga 6,561,446 43,167
2nd Premier League 8,015,639 36,601
3rd La Liga 5,288,422 26,575
4th Serie A 4,678,829 23,394
5th Ligue 1 3,926,037 20,716

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Soulflytribe wrote:At least we beat Germany's 2006 World Cup in overall number of tickets sold and average attendance per match! Take that Dr. Cosmo!

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Brazil did manage a wonderful football fiesta and a provided a stunning background for the most fascinating sports event on the globe.
The Brazilians were a marvelous host.


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noemon wrote:Messi does not shine....


So you actually agree with me that he did not shine.
Nothing wrong with my opinion that people who don't shine don't get shiny prices.
And I'm absolutely not interested in your boring excuses why he didn't shine.
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Fasces wrote:
Dutch soccer is a joke.


Its called football ! (The US does practice American rugby)
Holland was home of some of the greatest players of all time.
FIFA has more than 200 members, the Netherlands are historically a Top10 World Cup Team.
The third place this year is a marvelous achievement, but not satisfying of course.
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I hate to see Germany win anything. It's all part of the propaganda war to gain control of Europe, and the British media seem to be knee deep in it, shameless.
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Decky wrote:Meh it's only a game of football, did the citizens of Berlin win in 1945?

At least the Fräuleins won some friends on her backs. Just like our game against Brazil. Entirely against their will...

btw. he resigned today from the Nationalmannschaft:
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