[Dr House]

The only serious attempt I have seen here yet to debunk race intelligence variation theory is an ongoing one from Smilin' Dave, which is not yet settled. What I've seen however is people treating the point as an article of religious faith.

Obviously it'd be good for me if Dave was wrong, but I don't have enough evidence he is to dismiss his ideas.

What racists/racialists use to support their arguments is pseudo-science.

How is it pseudo-science?

[millie_(A)TCK]

Obviously it'd be good for me if Dave was wrong, but I don't have enough evidence he is to dismiss his ideas.

Obviously you need to do some more research and not see PoFo as your only source of knowledge.

[Figlio di Moros]

:?: random. You don't know me so please don't make any assumptions about me.

I didn't make any assumptions beyond the fact you likely know more career-oriented black women.

Why are you a miscegenist?

Are you asking why I can be defined by the term, or why I have the personal preferences I do?

Well the only thing we have in common is a dislike for sluts, the difference is, I don't use them then pretend to be better than them.

Unless you're a lesbian, it'd be hard for you to do so; the problem I have with sluts has less to do with them spreading their legs and more to do with their underlying character.

Obviously it'd be good for me if Dave was wrong, but I don't have enough evidence he is to dismiss his ideas.

QFT- not only because I'm Italian(damn berbers) and Appalachian, which might be mute on their own, especially considering you're haitian( ), but particularly considering my taste in women and how close I've already come to raising a couple little pickaninnies already...

[millie_(A)TCK]

Only on PoFo will you find a person who prefers women of colour but hates women and thinks people of colour inferior.

I didn't make any assumptions beyond the fact you likely know more career-oriented black women.

You made the assumption I have a hard time finding a good (black) man.

Unless you're a lesbian, it'd be hard for you to do so

I am bi.

the problem I have with sluts has less to do with them spreading their legs and more to do with their underlying character.

Which to you is?

Are you asking why I can be defined by the term, or why I have the personal preferences I do?

the latter.

[Dr House]

Obviously you need to do some more research and not see PoFo as your only source of knowledge.

I've done some research. What I came up with is that IQ is somewhere between 50 and 80% heritable, and there is a consistent IQ gap found between different racial groups. I haven't found any research which contradicts these claims scientifically, but I've found opinion pieces bashing the research.

QFT- not only because I'm Italian(damn berbers) and Appalachian, which might be mute on their own, especially considering you're haitian( ), but particularly considering my taste in women and how close I've already come to raising a couple little pickaninnies...

I think you've misunderstood Dave's ideas on race and intelligence. Just because the members of one racial classification are dumber on average doesn't mean people of that race are automatically dumb (most people of any race are of limited capacity anyway-- an IQ of 100 isn't very smart). Italians, by the way, are every bit as smart as other Europeans, though Spaniards have been found to have an IQ 3-5 points lower.

[millie_(A)TCK]

what's up with italians and black girls especially? I am quarter Italian, and Prince, Alicia Keys, Vin Diesel etc are all Black/Italian. Look at Robert De Niro whose wives have all been black. Why the particular interest?

[Abood]

I am quarter Italian

You're so mixed, you make me jealous.

PS: You're still here.

[millie_(A)TCK]

I never said when I was going to leave abu

You're so mixed, you make me jealous.

I am very lucky. I love my heritage, such race rebels.

[Abood]

Yeh.

I wanna trace my ancestry and see if Lawrence of Arabia raped someone in my family.

[millie_(A)TCK]

what?

My heritage thank god was by people who loved each other, no rape as far back as I've searched.

[Abood]

Haha, I kid.

Seriously though, I wish I had a mix.

We have Black relatives (like my father's cousins or something), and considering my dad and sister have somewhat Black features, I think there's something there... Hmmm...

[Figlio di Moros]

Only on PoFo will you find a person who prefers women of colour but hates women and thinks people of colour inferior.

I prefer the term "darkies", mainly because any decent women shouldn't be able to pass a paper-bag test.

You made the assumption I have a hard time finding a good (black) man.

No, you made the assumption that I made the assumption towards you. The fact is, career-oriented black women are the least likely to get married or maintain a long-term relationship, and, from personal experience, that's not their personal desire; whether or not it affects you is irrelevant, as you're more than likely familar with the phenomena.

I am bi.

Please, do tell...

Which to you is?

As I said before, ditzy, childish, and anything but lady-like.

the latter.

Ok... One, I find black women far more attractive; the smooth black skin, the lips, the body, hair, nose... just all around more attractive, IMO. then you have to compound it with the fact black women are typically stronger, have more common sense, and, with the exception of a number of hoodrats, they lack the character flaws most women have. Does that answer your question?

what's up with italians and black girls especially? I am quarter Italian, and Prince, Alicia Keys, Vin Diesel etc are all Black/Italian. Look at Robert De Niro whose wives have all been black. Why the particular interest?

Dunno, but it's been the subject of many a BWWM-forum. I think it just has to do with the fact we're both incredibly attractive and Italians just got that swag where we don't give a damn, we don't need to go after Aryan women to feel better about ourselves. It seems most other white men are just too insecure to actually go for it.

[Cheesecake_Marmalade]

Does the fact women have an average IQ two points lower than men with a much lower standard deviation

If the average woman and the average man have slightly different IQs than this fact is irrelevant because it is not the understood standard deviation for IQ tests (20). Also you forget to mention that a man's much higher standard deviations means that a lot more men have extremely low IQ.

[Figlio di Moros]

If the average woman and the average man have slightly different IQs than this fact is irrelevant because it is not the understood standard deviation for IQ tests (20). Also you forget to mention that a man's much higher standard deviations means that a lot more men have extremely low IQ.

And I could give less of a fuck about those men; we need to be atleast one standard deviation ahead of where we are now. The fact women are average, and average is, well, pretty dumb, doesn't speak well of their gender.

[Dr House]

Standard deviation from the white mean is 15, Cheesecake.

[Cheesecake_Marmalade]

All average people are average. Less standard deviation also means that more women populate the 115 IQ that you want to get everyone at. Also I don't think you realize that if we were one standard deviation higher, then the test would just be normalized again.

Standard deviation from the white mean is 15, Cheesecake.

Ok, I was just using the standard deviation I was taught in my statistics class, but if it's 15 that's fine too, because 15 is still more than 2, so 2 is still statistically insignificant. If one were to say that men and women have an IQ difference of 12+, then it would be significant.

[Dr House]

:eh: All average people are average. Less standard deviation also means that more women populate the 115 IQ that you want to get everyone at. Also I don't think you realize that if we were one standard deviation higher, then the test would just be normalized again.

Which would mean that the number of 100 would represent smarter people, which would mean for example you'd need an IQ of 104 instead of 120 to be able to become an engineer, which means more people would be able to obtain greater skills, which is a good thing.

[Figlio di Moros]

:eh: All average people are average. Less standard deviation also means that more women populate the 115 IQ that you want to get everyone at. Also I don't think you realize that if we were one standard deviation higher, then the test would just be normalized again.

Which would mean that the number of 100 would represent smarter people, which would mean for example you'd need an IQ of 104 instead of 120 to be able to become an engineer, which means more people would be able to obtain greater skills, which is a good thing.

Yes, thank you for pointing that out to him, House. C_M, 115 is one standard deviation above avg.; the avg. for women is just under 100, for white men it's 102, and women have a much lower sd, as we've already noted... basically, 15.8% of all people have an IQ above 115, and because of the already stated fact, the vast majority of those people are men.

House, I thought 115 was the minimum IQ generally associated with engineers? Either way, I believe such a minimum IQ for technical skills out to be no higher than 70; if, in the long-term, we could have a society where the genius level of today was considered borderline-retarded, I'd consider it an unequivicle success, and the single greatest achievement of mankind by far.

[MistyTiger]

I sent you a private message misty.

Thanks. I have read it.

[millie_(A)TCK]

am I ever going to get my sig