[KurtFF8]

Yes it is, these non-European immigrants would at one moment complain how their cities were overrun by European migrants in colonial era, and how they are thieves and murderous bunch, yet at the same moment they do exactly the same, overrunning European cities.

This is where your logical flaw shines through. "yet at the same moment they do exactly the same." If you can't understand the difference between imperial overcoming over weaker nations, and populations coming to join the lowest classes of society to make ends-meat then you're just willfully being ignorant about this so you can be anti-immigrant.

So is this mass-immigration actually contributing to Europe and north America? The fact that immigrants work for lower wages is a benevolent outcome of immigration in your opinion?

Benevolent outcome? Man you've never heard of a "straw man argument" have you? They work for lower wages because those who hire seek out those who are willing to work for lower wages. The more competition there is in terms of labor, the more that employers have an advantage over labor, and overall wages are lowered.

There are Muslims in Europe who are claiming that they are being discriminated against for the most ridiculous reasons imaginable. They have said that because restaurants are serving pork that it is discriminatory towards Muslims. Isn't that just completely nuts? If you don't want to eat pork then don't order it! How in the world is that discrimination?? How utterly selfish do you have to be to expect everyone to stop living their ways of life and bow before yours? And the worst part is that more and more white people are bowing down before these selfish and retarded demands!!!

Listen Agent Steel, if this were the main issue with Muslims living in Europe, that would indeed be ridiculous. But the fact is that it isn't, and won't be. There are obviously broader more important issues going on. And a lot of it has to do with the power relationship between Europe and the Muslim world

What's your point? A lot of bad things have happened in the past. Do you want the same things to be happening in the present too, as a form of revenge towards whites? Europeans of TODAY are not imposing culture onto anyone; their ANCESTORS were - why should they take the brunt and the blame for something that they are totally innocent for, and why would you continue to support the same types of actions if you don't like them??

This is where your racism is revealed (besides your previous post that I didn't bother quoting)

The idea that this is "revenge towards whites" or that Europe is "endanger" because they have low-wage labor coming to their countries is absurd. It's also absurd to compare bringing in low-wage labor into a country to the imperialist aspirations of a country.

[Mike Powell]

What mistake is that? Standing up for oneself is a mistake? I should instead let immigrants and minorities run wild and impose their ways of life onto white people?

And do you think every country's immigration departments were foolish enough to let immigrants "swarm" their country?

Standing up you are. But you must know in democracy, minority do have their right as well, and so are you. And I am part of the minority in my country. Do my brethren stamp on majority? Well, for your opinion however, we are.

[Corporatios]

And do you think every country's immigration departments were foolish enough to let immigrants "swarm" their country?

Actually, immigration departments couldn't stop and most importantly couldn't and can't control the muslim immigration for various certain reasons.

Besides that, immigrants are not a native minority. They ought to conform to the norms of the local society if they want to stay. With the situation today, muslim immigrants demand some times more rights than even the natives, while the show no will to conform even with the basic laws of that society. The results of this current treatment by the governments is obvious in the high criminality and the creation of 'ghettos' in the heart of most european capitals, something most people could never have imagined 10 years ago, and thus their resent towards muslims is partly reasonable.

[Apoc]

Apparently Europeans/Americans don't care enough to deport any Muslims, or they would have. Luckily Muslims will outbreed the local whites and a new Greater West pakistan will arise.