[Xbow]

Since Mexico is in North America I'll correctly post this here. (Shouldn't there be a Mexico button along with the USA and Canada buttons?)

Mexican vigilante gunmen disarm local POLICE so they can rid town of feared Knights Templar drug cartel

Residents living in fear of violent criminal gangs in south-west Mexico are taking matters into their own hands. Yesterday 600 vigilantes seized control of town of Paracuaro in Michoacan state in bloody battle that left one dead Convoy of 'autodefensas', or self-defence groups, drove into the town controlled by drugs gang in blacked-out SUVs. They took back control from the Cabelleros Templarios (Knights Templar) gang which terrorised local residents

In neighbouring Guerrero state, vigilante group the Public Safety System marched in honour of first anniversary

Here is a Link to this magnificent show of citizenship in the face of corrupt cops and vicious crooks that prey on the common folks. LINK TO SOURCE

A Hilarious proposal from the Mexican Government

"The government will try to engage Mexico's community policing groups in a dialogue to try to halt the spread of these vigilante groups, Deputy Communications Secretary Eduardo Sanchez said. "This process demands, of course, a political role, dialogue and the federal government will be willing to participate at all times to assist and support the state and municipal governments," Sanchez said."

Imagine that, the Mexican Government is threatened by the militia men that are doing more than the Federal government slobs and the Local Police to combat the Cartels in Mexico. No wonder the Mexican Fedz want to disarm these men and women that have had enough of a corrupt unresponsive govt, criminal cops and Cartel Psychos. Who knows this could boil over into a violent Regime change in Mexico.


"Police officers are forced to surrender their weapons to armed vigilantes in Paracuaro yesterday after the group seized control"

[DeadPresidents]

Good for Mexico!

[Zagadka]

[Zag Edit: Moving thread to Latin America. Please read the forum descriptions; Mexico is specifically listed in the Latin America subforum, for whatever reason]

[Zagadka]

Always good to overthrow those corrupt assholes. If only the US would give a fig about encouraging stability in our southern neighbor.

[Soulflytribe]

[Zag Edit: Moving thread to Latin America. Please read the forum descriptions; Mexico is specifically listed in the Latin America subforum, for whatever reason]

The reason is quite obvious to me. Americans dislike Mexicans and Mexico (as you can see here). Thus, they do not welcome the idea of being lumped together with that country, so they always find ways to remove Mexico from North America. What I see as incredibly childish. Take Pofo, for example: all continents' forums are divided following the seven-continent model. But there is no South America forum. Why? Because we would have to talk about Mexico in the North America forum. And that's unacceptable. Right, Zag?

[Xbow]

Always good to overthrow those corrupt assholes. If only the US would give a fig about encouraging stability in our southern neighbor.

I agree 100% if it were up to me we would be pushing guns and military training for the common men and women in Mexico to get rid of the greedy and corrupt Mexican government. Once that is done and the country is free of the parasites the USA should subsidize Mexico until it is stable. And of course Carlos Slim and his cronies should be sacrificed atop the Pyramid Of The Sun and televised on National TV. If we ever want to stem the tide of illegal immigration then we should help fix Mexico. And I do not care if the government they choose is a socialist one or a hard ass Marxist one since Mexico is absolutely no threat to the USA. But could in the end be a good friend and business partner.

[benpenguin]

XBow I don't think its a bad idea, except the fact that the track record of regime changes and proxy militas run by Americans have a horrible track record and tend to wreck countries beyond repair. You could end up having a shittier hellhole right next to home.

[Lexington]

The reason is quite obvious to me. Americans dislike Mexicans and Mexico (as you can see here). Thus, they do not welcome the idea of being lumped together with that country, so they always find ways to remove Mexico from North America. What I see as incredibly childish. Take Pofo, for example: all continents' forums are divided following the seven-continent model. But there is no South America forum. Why? Because we would have to talk about Mexico in the North America forum. And that's unacceptable. Right, Zag?

None of the "continents' forums" actually correspond to the continents - North America is US/Canada, Latin America is Latin America, Europe includes all of Russia, the Middle East includes North Africa, Africa is just sub-saharan Africa, Asia/Pacific is East Asia/South Asia/Oceania. Except for the UK getting its own category and some different names, this is exactly how the BBC breaks the world up.

[Xbow]

XBow I don't think its a bad idea, except the fact that the track record of regime changes and proxy militas run by Americans have a horrible track record and tend to wreck countries beyond repair. You could end up having a shittier hellhole right next to home.

There would be no proxy militias involved as I am not proposing that the USA be in control of jack shit. I am proposing that the USA provide a little help to the insurgents on the sly and arm them with up to date intelligence and some technical assistance. The fight would belong to the Mexican people as would the decisions about what kind of government they want when the parasites have been deposed.

[Travesty]

This is actually not good news. You've got lawless vigilantism in corrupt cartel land where things don't seem to be getting better.

[Soulflytribe]

None of the "continents' forums" actually correspond to the continents - North America is US/Canada

But North America is not only Canada and the USA.
It's simply absurd to create a forum named "North America" where you can't post threads about Mexico.



Mexico is totally integrated with the US;
Mexico is part of Nafta and the third largest trade partner of the US;
Mexico shares a border with the US;
There are 50 million Mexicans or Mexican-Americans living in the US;
Hell, the first time I ate Mexican food in my life was in Orlando;
"Cinco de Mayo" is already a national holiday in the US.

Latin America is Latin America

Ok, but then we should have an Anglophone forum, a Latin Europe forum...
By logic, if there is a "North America forum", then a "South America forum" should also exist.

Europe includes all of Russia

the Middle East includes North Africa

Africa is just sub-saharan Africa

Asia/Pacific is East Asia/South Asia/Oceania.

Ok, but these make sense. What I fail to see is how Mexico has more in common with South America than with the US.
Just look at this thread. It's impossible to talk about Mexico without mentioning its largest military and trade partner in the world. This childish prejudice that Americans nurture on Mexico and Mexicans has to go. Yes, Mexico is part of North America and is more connected with the US and North America than with any other country or region in the world. No one can deny that.

[KlassWar]

This is actually not good news. You've got lawless vigilantism in corrupt cartel land where things don't seem to be getting better.

Why isn't it good news? A corrupt, right-wing State that rigs elections to keep right-wingers in power, that's in cahoots with organized crime and a willing puppet of Yankee imperialism is slowly but surely losing control of its own territory. Sit back and enjoy, folks. I'd very much enjoy watching the Mexican cartels, security forces and comprador bourgeoisie getting chopped alive into tiny little chunks of ground meat, TBH.

[Lexington]

(this is a digression and I apologize for it and the topic should be split if it continues)

But North America is not only Canada and the USA.
It's simply absurd to create a forum named "North America" where you can't post threads about Mexico.

Mexico is totally integrated with the US;
Mexico is part of Nafta and the third largest trade partner of the US;
Mexico shares a border with the US;
There are 50 million Mexicans or Mexican-Americans living in the US;
Hell, the first time I ate Mexican food in my life was in Orlando;
"Cinco de Mayo" is already a national holiday in the US.

Ok, but then we should have an Anglophone forum, a Latin Europe forum...
By logic, if there is a "North America forum", then a "South America forum" should also exist.


Ok, but these make sense. What I fail to see is how Mexico has more in common with South America than with the US.
Just look at this thread. It's impossible to talk about Mexico without mentioning its largest military and trade partner in the world. This childish prejudice that Americans nurture on Mexico and Mexicans has to go. Yes, Mexico is part of North America and is more connected with the US and North America than with any other country or region in the world. No one can deny that.

That's all fine, but this is not a political statement about how interconnected Mexico is or is not with the US (which it deeply is). Frankly speaking if an English-speaker goes to the "North America" forum (which probably should be renamed US/Canada as the BBC did if for nothing else clarity) they're probably looking for US/Canada topics, not Mexico or Costa Rica topics. The BBC and other media do the same thing for the same reason.

[Far-Right Sage]

This is actually not good news. You've got lawless vigilantism in corrupt cartel land where things don't seem to be getting better.

I couldn't disagree more, because in terms of Mexican politics, a cursory examination of the past half century informs one that if and when anything indeed gets "better", it must and will come from the Mexican people (yes, absolutely including armed, lethal, and determined people) rather than the corrupt cartel regime of liberal thieves and criminals in Mexico City. The only potential for positive action in Mexico today in terms of national betterment is that action which manifests not only outside the Mexican state, but in opposition to it.