- 26 May 2024 20:52
#15316498
Stop being lazy.
Accept the stats for what they are.
It is Israeli soldiers who don't let them go into a war zone for their security.
HRW is the only one making those allegations.
No famine has been declared.
This is also old information and the assessments are based on model results and not on the situation on the ground.
Israel isn't shutting the crossing down.
It is not.
It's not my fault you disregard sources when they disagree with you.
You even lied about the source of OCHA's import data.
Egypt isn't letting cargo cross. In fact, it decided to reroute aid through Israel's Kerem Shalom crossing.
The question is not if IDF presence is needed to keep the border crossing open. The question is if the ICJ ordered Israel to ensure the crossing remains open or not and if Israel would be in compliance with the order if the crossing remained closed even after the IDF withdrew.
Pants-of-dog wrote:What is the argument?
Stop being lazy.
Accept the stats for what they are.
Pants-of-dog wrote:The reports from OCHA, UNRWA, OXFAM, the WFP and other aid organizations have all been quoted and all have explicitly stated that the IDF and Israeli government policies are responsible for the famine
It is Israeli soldiers who don't let them go into a war zone for their security.
Pants-of-dog wrote:Human Rights Watch is even more explicit:
HRW is the only one making those allegations.
Pants-of-dog wrote:The experts agree that famine is now happening:
https://www.ipcinfo.org/ipcinfo-website ... sue-97/en/
No famine has been declared.
This is also old information and the assessments are based on model results and not on the situation on the ground.
Pants-of-dog wrote:It is directly exacerbating an ongoing famine by shutting down one of the few land crossings for humanitarian aid, which also happens to be the main conduit for food aid now
Israel isn't shutting the crossing down.
Pants-of-dog wrote:This is incorrect.
It is not.
It's not my fault you disregard sources when they disagree with you.
You even lied about the source of OCHA's import data.
Pants-of-dog wrote:Since you refuse to clarify how it is Egypt's fault the crossing is closed, or explain why the crossing closed exactly when the IDF invaded, the logical conclusion is that the IDF is responsible for the closing of the crossing.
Egypt isn't letting cargo cross. In fact, it decided to reroute aid through Israel's Kerem Shalom crossing.
Pants-of-dog wrote:It does.disprove the claim that an IDF presence is needed for the crossing to be open.
The question is not if IDF presence is needed to keep the border crossing open. The question is if the ICJ ordered Israel to ensure the crossing remains open or not and if Israel would be in compliance with the order if the crossing remained closed even after the IDF withdrew.