Igor Antunov wrote:If you mean to imply this is happening in a vacuum devoid of NATO which is specifically set up to contain Russia on behalf of the US, then we have to ignore half the equation in any argument. It's not realistic to ignore the Russian side of the argument. 50% of Russians support Putins action: https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/202 ... poll-intl/
Even a majority with decisive yes/no answers support outright annexation of Ukraine. I presume due to historical reasons as they see them. The western perspective regarding Ukraine is probably more alien and opportunistic to Ukrainians than the Russian one.
If we have to dance around the Russian perspective then this becomes just another seething/coping support thread. Got enough of that courtesy of the mainstream media. Putin is not a comic book villain, he has his support base whom he tries to appease, it's significantly larger than what most western parties enjoy.
No Igor, it is not taking place in a vacuum, it is taking place because Putin considers the Ukraine "historical Russian land" as you informed us yourself by posting his thesis from the other day and because the west is too weak to do anything about it, so effectively a power vaccuum indeed.
Second, NATO has never invaded Russia, nor threatened her in any way, shape or form. Russia on the other hand, has invaded Georgia, Ukraine and others precisely because they were not NATO members. Therefore, NATO is absolutely necessary for any country wishing to remain free from Russian invasion. Also, Russia permitted Turkey & Azerbaijan to invade Armenia despite Armenia being part of the Russian equivalent of NATO rendering 'Russian protection' to worse than worthless.
The Ukraine specifically did not even want to be in NATO before 2014 but tried to sign a minor Trade Agreement with the EU, similar to the one Russia has already signed. That is not a justification to invade Ukraine several times and certainly not a justification for the current invasion.
All trolls using 18-20th centuries colonialism, Cuban missile crisis and whatever other bullshit they can imagine to justify extreme Russian aggression against a sovereign country will be banned.
This is my final reply to this matter and any reply to my post will be met with a ban.
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