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#205350
I have been doing a lot of research in this area...primarely in regards to the Soviet Penal System. I have found some very interesting information. But before that...I want to ask a question:

Can anyone find death statistics for prisons in Russia TODAY??

I have been trying to find them...but there is nothing on the net.

Regarding the US, I was able to find out...or determine on my own...that the death rate in 1995 in US prisons was 0.31% (total of 3157 prison deaths). By comparison in 1951 in the USSR the prison death rate was 0.7%...or about double. This compares very favorably actually...considering it was 50 years ago...and considering the state of health care of the time (as most deaths are due to health problems)

(though US prisons have other things like hundreds of thousands of reported rapes every year and more than 20.000 people living with HIV)

However...a better comparison would be between the USSR of then and the Russia of today. I am sure that in Russian prisons today the death rate is MUCH higher than in the US.

If anyone has any sort of info which might help me determine the death rate in Russian prisons today...it would be very helpful (those of you who live in Russia in particularly!!!)

That data could help put an end...once and for all...to the myth that Soviet prisons of the 30s, 40s and 50s were horrible death factories. The truth is quite different...and by comprison with Russian prisons today...Soviet prisons of 50 years ago may actually win out!!
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By Comrade Ogilvy
#205353
Also interesting, I believe, would be the statistics on the number of confined political prisoners.
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By Comrade Ogilvy
#205355
Minister Details Grim Russian Prison Statistics

Reuters (10/07/99)


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Russia's justice minister, Yury Chaika, recently discussed the problems of the prison system with Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, noting that 97,000 inmates have tuberculosis (TB). Russia has one of the world's highest incarceration rates per head, with many jail cells far below internationally accepted standards. The Interfax news agency reported Thursday that Chaika also reported that one third of Russians with TB are either in a penal colony or a pre-trial cell.


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SOURCE: http://www.aegis.com/news/ads/1999/AD991704.html
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By Comrade Ogilvy
#205356
Countries with the highest prison population rates in the world
Rank - Country - Prisoners per 100,000 inhabitants


1 Russia 730
2 United States 680
3 Belarus 575
4 Kazakhstan 495
5 Bahamas 485
6 Belize 460
7 Kyrgystan 440
8 Surinam 435
9 Ukraine 430
10 Dominica 420

SOURCE: http://www.aneki.com/prisoners.html
By Proctor
#205376
You could be right. But keep in mind that you will also need to find labour camp statistics from the USSR, and factor them in, and realise that both USSR wardens and today's Russian ones will be inclined to modify the facts a little...
By Tovarish Spetsnaz
#205395
Oh I am aware of the labor camps. The statistics I gave INCLUDE the labor camps, Gulags, prisons and all others.

I know the number of prisoners in Russia today is higher than in the US...I am not asking for that. I am asking for death rates...

TB seems to be a major problem in Russian prisons today, 97.000 infected means probably thousands die every year from it in prison!

More info like that would be helpful!!

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Regarding political prisoners...that is a very broad term...becasue in the USSR political prisoners included crimes like holiganism, gansgterism, stealing from public or state proprety...all the way to terrorism, spying, desertion and so forth. So simply becasue you were called a "political prisoner"...didn't mean you were. In the US such crimes would simply be considered crimes...not political crimes.

But I don't want to get into that discussion...damn you Prometheus...DON'T CHANGE THE SUBJECT!!
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By Comrade Ogilvy
#205445
Tovarish Spetsnaz wrote:Regarding political prisoners...that is a very broad term...becasue in the USSR political prisoners included crimes like holiganism, gansgterism, stealing from public or state proprety...all the way to terrorism, spying, desertion and so forth. So simply becasue you were called a "political prisoner"...didn't mean you were. In the US such crimes would simply be considered crimes...not political crimes.


The crimes you included could only be considered as 'political' if they were carried out under political motives. Was this actually the case?
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By Comrade Ogilvy
#205446
EXTRACT:

"Prison Health. Living conditions and health care services in prisons in the former Soviet Union are wholly substandard and the health of prisoners is markedly poorer than that of the population at large. There is a need to improve public health by strengthening the competence of health care services in prisons and their position within the prison hierarchy, and by increasing the involvement of public health services in prisons.

In 2001, the Network Public Health Programs established a small grants fund to be managed by the International Centre for Prison Studies and Penal Reform International. Grantmaking, which will begin in 2002, will focus on projects promoting the integration of prison and public health systems to improve health both inside prisons and in the wider community. "

SOURCE: http://www.soros.org/netprog/medical.html
Last edited by Comrade Ogilvy on 18 May 2003 04:05, edited 1 time in total.
By Tovarish Spetsnaz
#205447
Reagrdless if the crimes were carried out for political motives or not...they were called political crimes in the USSR.
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By Comrade Ogilvy
#205448
EXTRACT:

" Tuberculosis (TB)
TB rates in Russia increased by 70% from 1990 to 1995, according to sanitary epidemiologic surveillance records (Table; 1). The disease rate in 1999 was 4.5% higher than in 1998 (4,6) (61.4/100,000 or 90,000 newly identified cases, 4,681 [5%] in children <14 years of age [6,7]). More than 25,000 persons die of TB each year (8). The highest rates are reported from Tuva, Khakassia, Khakassia, and the Tyumen, Jewish Autonomic, Perm, and Novosibirisk regions, with case rates of 266.4, 212.4, 146.8, 142.3, 137.6, 131.9, and 131 per 100,000, respectively (9). These data from the Ministry of Health likely do not reflect the disease rate among prisoners, who numbered approximately 974,000 in September 2000 (www.prison.org). The TB death rate, however, has remained stable or declined, with 16.7 per 100,000 in 1997 and 15.4 in 1998 (10).

According to the World Health Organization's definition (4), a case of TB is recorded if mycobacteria are identified directly by Ziehl-Neelsen microscopy. According to this method, the number of TB patients in Russia is approximately 20,000 (4). However, if mycobacteria are identified through culture, polymerase chain reaction, or other diagnostic methods, the estimated cumulative number of TB cases is 300,000. Additional categories of patients needing follow-up include 1 million recovered patients, 200,000 contacts of persons with newly identified cases, and 700,000 persons with positive tuberculin skin tests (4). Deterioration of living conditions in the past 10 years, including food shortages, poverty, and severe overcrowding in prisons, is associated with increasing TB rates. Another important factor is the spread of mycobacterial strains resistant to antibiotics, especially strains resistant to multiple drugs. Uncontrolled administration of antibiotics (e.g., in prisons) promotes emergence of resistant strains. Russia has a high rate of strains resistant to a single drug (5,10), which may lead to an increase in the number of strains resistant to multiple drugs."

SOURCE: http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol7no1/netesov.htm


EXTRACT:

"Resistance to Antibiotics
Antibiotic resistance has increased in Russia since antibiotics became available without prescription. In addition, a high concentration of TB patients in prisons, combined with a massive shortage of drugs in prison clinics, results in frequent self-treatment. This self-treatment leads to inappropriate selection of drugs and results in incomplete treatment, thus encouraging the emergence of drug-resistant strains. A detailed study of this situation by the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences and Academy of Sciences has just begun."

SOURCE: http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol7no1/netesov.htm


EXTRACT:

"HIV Infection
The number of HIV-infected patients increased from 95 in 1990 to 3,709 in 1998, virtually doubling each year from 1993 to 1998 (Table). The number of HIV-infected patients reached 15,569 by September 1999 (12) and a report in the November 17, 2000, issue of Izvestia stated that the number of officially registered HIV-positive persons had increased to 69,120. These official statistics on HIV may reflect only 10% to 20% of the actual number of carriers (12). A recent study of the Irkutsk prison population identified more than 1,400 HIV-infected prisoners (pers. commun., office of public health, Irkutsk Region), although only 30 cases had previously been reported from the entire region."

SOURCE: http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol7no1/netesov.htm
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By Comrade Ogilvy
#205449
TB Corrective Institution (ColonyNo.10)



Location: Kaisk, 145 kilometres from Nizhny Novgorod

The colony was built in the 1940s. It has a ward with 250 beds for the seriously ill.

The colony can accommodate up to 1,077 people at any time. The average yearly number of prisoners was 1,240 in 1995, 1,890 in 1996 and 2,100 in 1997. As many as 70% of the convicts suffer from acute forms of tuberculosis (collapsed lungs). Of them 80% require treatment in wards, but there are not enough beds. The colony has only 40% of the required number of doctors, therefore the patients frequently have to wait in line outside for treatment.

The colony received just an eighth of its required funding from the federal budget in 1997.

A total of 158 people died in the colony between January 1 and October 21, 1997. The number of deaths is expected to increase to 340 in 1998. In the first 10 months of 1977, 600 prisoners released on completion of their sentences had an acute form of TB, and 170 recovered.

Expenditures on food for convicts totaled 4,000 rubles ($0.7) per person per day, and expenditures on treatment 2,000 rubles in 1997. By comparison, expenditures on treatment at a city tuberculosis clinic were 50,000 rubles ($8.3) for bed patients and 20,000 rubles ($3.3) for out-patients.

The main form of production in the colony is sewn items.

This is the colony most in need of aid. The administration assists with care, but the colony's remoteness is a major impediment. Charitable aid is rendered by public organizations and individuals, mainly in the form of food and medicines.


SOURCE: http://www.prison.org/english/rpovtt.htm
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By Comrade Ogilvy
#205450
Prisoners infected with tuberculosis



According to the GUIN (the Main Directorate of corrections), in the criminal corrections system there were 38 specialized hospitals (19,400 prisoners) and 45 specialized tuberculosis colonies (50,400 prisoners).

At present, medical service for detainees and prisoners does not comply with international standards of medical service in penal institutions and the right of every citizen to medical service and health protection stated in the Constitution of the Russian Federation. About 95 per cent of medical institutions are situated in unsuitable buildings; due to lack of space it is impossible to open necessary laboratories and departments. Medical personnel is unable to make correct diagnosis and treat people at a modern level without modern equipment. TB patients in SIZOs (the pre-trial centers) are in the most difficult situation. For these reasons, planned operations were postponed in many hospitals. It is more difficult to render qualified medical help due to the insufficient number of medical staff with 75 per cent of doctors needed. Blocks for TB infected prisoners in SIZOs of many big cities are overcrowded, even more so than common cells.

SOURCE: http://www.prison.org/english/rpovcp.htm
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By Comrade Ogilvy
#205451
WOMEN IN SIZO




The conditions in the Moscow pre-trial detention prison Butyrka can be better described in the words of one woman who was sentenced to 6 years of imprisonment for traffic accident resulted in the death of an old man of 75. She’s awaiting the transfer to the colony for convicted persons which as a rule takes 2-3 months.

Among other things she said:

“The cell is designed for 22 people, but there are 70 of us in here. Even basic conditions are not provided. It is impossible to call a doctor, no soup, nor towel is available. People are sitting and sleep on the same places – in three shifts. The food is bad, pearl porridge in the morning, same porridge – in the evening, for lunch – schi, water and salt. One lump of sugar a day, 200 grams of bread – for one bite... No chance to wash your belongings, no hot water, no basins, no pails.... They do not give out clean linen, we sleep on mattresses.”

Under such overcrowding the women have to wait from the morning till the evening in a queue to get to the toilet. The cells are so stuffy and the time they spend there is so long that it is nothing but torment.

The interview was taken in December last year. Butyrka as you may know is the oldest and notorious prison symbolizing all the horror of imprisonment in Russia. This prison is designed not particularly for women, they are only held on the third floor of the facility. There are about 600 women held in there with the total number of 7000 detainees. For the last few years about ten thousand women went through the cells of this prison.

Such a situation can commonly be found in most pre-trial detention centers in Russia. And the recommendation of many organizations dealing with prisoners’ rights is to introduce the special norms related to the detention conditions of female prisoners.

At present there are 2,053 adult female prisoners in all types of penitentiary institutions, and about 20,000 in pre-trial detention (in late 1995, there were 17,000 in SIZOs).

International norms on the treatment of prisoners devote special attention to the physiological needs of female prisoners. But prison conditions in male and female facilities differ little in Russian SIZOs and IVSs, a state of affairs that is in full compliance with Russian legislation.

Cells for female inmates are semi-dark rooms, dimly lit, day and night. Windows are barred and have screens made of iron sheets with holes drilled in them. The cells get no daylight or fresh air. Two-tier bunk beds are fastened to the walls.

Any cell, be it for 5 or 30 inmates, has only one sink and one toilet. Showers are allowed once per week.

Also once per week (usually on the day when prisoners take showers) women receive a small piece (about 50 grams) of the cheapest soap. No other detergents (shampoo, laundry soap, etc.) are available. According to reports from female prisoners, intervals between showers grow for various reason from two or three weeks up to two or three months.

Women have to wash in the full view of the cell, and the sink and toilet are not separated from the rest of the cell. Prison staff sometimes tear off hand-made curtains which women use to screen the toilet.

Washing clothes and bedding is also a big problem.

Only prison clothing and bedding (which bear a special mark) can be sent out to the prison laundry, and one can have washed only one bed sheet, one pillow case, one towel and one set of underwear. But most SIZOs now cannot supply all inmates with prison clothing and bedding. Those women who managed to obtain prison clothing prefer not to send them out to the prison laundry, because their clothing come back infested with lice, very worn out, or with holes torn in them. Women sometimes tear off pieces of prison clothes for sanitary napkins. Inmates are allowed to receive bedding, underwear, clothes, soap and shampoo only from those relatives recorded in their case history (names recorded when the arrestee was first registered in a pre-trial detention institution). The majority of women do not receive anything from the outside (either they have no relatives or relatives cannot afford to purchase such items). They are not allowed to have their personal things washed, yet it is almost impossible to do laundry in the cell.

A celll is usually allotted only one basin (for 5-40 inmates), and women have to wait in line to use it. As a rule there is no hot running water in cells. As laundry is dried in the cell, the air there becomes very damp and smelly. Moreover, it is forbidden to hang ropes for drying clothes. Wardens who strictly follow prison rules cut off the ropes and throw everything on the floor. Sometimes women have to put on wet clothes to dry them and fall ill as a result.

Women are not supplied with sanitary napkins or substitutes, prisoners' relatives are not allowed to bring cotton, napkins or toilet paper for security reasons (these articles can contain illegal correspondence or prohibited items). It is extremely difficult to receive even bandages. Menstruating women have to use washed (at best) scraps of prison clothing, pillows, mattress stuffing, and sometimes even newspapers.

Apart from such diseases common among prisoners as scabies, dysentery, tuberculosis, there is a danger of catching venereal diseases because among prisoners there are a lot of homeless women and railway station prostitutes in SIZOs and IVSs. Poor sanitary conditions (one toilet and one sink), lack of detergents, toilet articles, and clean clothing and overcrowding make these diseases highly contageous.

The quality of food defies criticism. First-time prisoners, prefer to go hungry rather than to touch prison food during first two weeks.

Soup is usually made of spoiled potatoes, carrots and cabbage. Oats or pearl barley or badly scraped, often spoiled vegetables are the second course. Fish is cooked with innards and scales. Starch is often added to porridge. Prison food lacks vitamins and has a disgusting smell. Such poor nutrition results in constipation, hair loss, skin diseases, and festering and bursting skin. Cells are infested with bugs, cockroaches, lice, mice and the like.

When prisoners are let out of their cells for daily exercise or for a shower, they are always guarded by staff equipped with clubs and sometimes dogs. Violations of discipline are punished by 10 days in an isolation cell, where it is cold, damp, and mice- or rat-infested, with a bed that folds out only at night, inmates are deprived of books, newspapers, daily exercise, showers, cigarettes. There is evidence that women have been locked up in very small rooms (0,51 square meters) called "boxik", where they could be kept for several hours (sometimes before a meeting with an investigator, most likely, to make them more amenable) or a day. Women in these "boxiks" are not let out to go to toilet and they are not given water. One woman reported that she had spent 24 hours in a "boxik" where the floor was covered with excrement. Women are supposedly sent to cells with specially chosen inmates (for example, former MVD officer was in the same cell with repeat offenders) by the order of the investigator.

The female wing of the Butyrka prison (Moscow) holds 500 women (50 of them are girls from 14 to 18 years old). It is damp and stuffy even in corridors, let alone cells and the walls are covered with mold. Female cells are not as overcrowded as male’s, but even here there are about 30 or 40 inmates in cells with 20 bunk beds.Hair falling out, skin diseases, festering and bursting skin on legs are the consequences of such nutrition. Cells are infested with bugs, cockroaches, lice, mice, etc.

SOURCE: http://www.prison.org/english/rpovcw.htm
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By Comrade Ogilvy
#205453
Juvenile SIZO Prisoners


Penitentiary institutions of all types in Russia hold about 50,000 juveniles from 11 to 18 years of age; pre-trial detention facilities 20,000; SIZOs, 18,000 (as of late 1995).

Juv Penitentiary institutions of all types in Russia hold about 50,000 juveniles from 11 to 18 years of age; pre-trial detention facilities 20,000; SIZOs, 18,000 (as of late 1995).eniles are usually kept in separate wings within SIZOs. Children’s cells are not as overcrowded as adult cells, and they are designed for 4—12 inmates; all other cell conditions are the same as in cells for adult prisoners (see chapter “Women in SIZOs”). According to the law, juveniles are allowed two hours of exercise daily, and higher level of nutrition, but the quality of the food is the same as for adults.

Terms of pre-trial detention for juveniles are excessively long (from six months up to three years). Arrest, as a measure of persecution, is applied unreasonably often. As a rule, arrestees are not released after their case went to court. Judges often get familiar with cases without the presence of parents or guardians (this is the violation of law). Medical service is inadequate. Some cases are known, when juveniles, having scabies, didn't receive any treatment for 23 weeks in spite of the fact, that they asked to see a doctor. Girls as well as women are not supplied with necessary sanitary material and toilet articles.

Juveniles spend excessively long terms in pre-trial detention for juveniles are excessively long (from six months up to three years). Arrest is used unreasonably often as a measure of restraint. As a rule, arrestees are not released after their cases go to court. Judges often examine cases without the presence of parents or guardians, (in violation of the law). Medical service is inadequate. For example, we are aware of many juveniles who suffered scabies but received no treatment for 23 weeks, in spite of the fact, that they asked to see a doctor. Girls are not supplied with necessary sanitary napkins and other toilet articles.

Most young offenders cannot afford to hire a skilled defense lawyer. They do not know their rights, do not understand the meaning of legal procedures, and do not know how to write a complaint or any other document relating their cases. Girls file almost no complaints about conditions of detention or violations of their rights to state oversight bodies or non-governmental organizations because, according to informal rules among prisoners, this is severely punished by other inmates.

The number of staff working with minors is inadequate. When there is no proper control over them, violence and suicide attempts rise.

In recent years, cases of violence were recorded not only in boys’ cells, but in girls’ as well.

For example, in the Butyrka pre-trial detention center, one girl (Marina R.) was almost raped with a hot water boiler. It was by mere chance that the girl was spared: a prison officer happened be near the door and overheard a conversation. This woman opened the door and let the girl who was supposed to be a victim out. This incident was under departmental investigation, which yilded no results, because the investigation started several months later, after the complaint had come from colony.

There is a strict hierarchy among juvenile inmates: there many so called "disgraced" boys (those who were raped) in boys' cells. In almost every cell for girls there are one or two girls who have very low status and are constantly subjected to violence in forms difficult for an adult to imagine. They are beaten, not allowed to sleep, raped with spoons and shampoo bottles, compelled to eat cockroaches, excrement; their tormentors burn out hair on their heads, make tattoos (over an upper lip or on a hand) indicating their disgraceful status, they not only rape them, but also make these girls satisfy sexual needs of their co-inmates in the most cruel and perverse ways. These girls do the grunt work in cells.

Marina R., who was transferred to a cell with adult women, had a deep festering wound (1.5—2 centimeters deep) on her thigh — her co-inmates set fire to a plastic bag and held it to the girl's body.

It is almost impossible to avoid violence and torment in juvenile cells, because according to the informal code of conduct inherent to this groups of prisoners, asking the prison administration for help is a disgraceful act; complainers are tormented in other cells, during transportation to a colony, and in the colony.

SIZO administrations know about these problems, but officially reject them. Juveniles subjected to violence receive no help from a psychologist, a psychiatrist, a gynecologist, even if the administration is informed about such incidents. In the opinion of many respondents (ex- political and other prisoners) in Russian penitentiary institutions it would be better to hold teenagers together with adults. Prison staff working with this category of prisoners also share (unofficially) this point of view. Whenever possible, they try to transfer girls subjected to violence to grown women cells, even if this is prohibited by law. Whenever a commission is expected to visit, the girls are returned to cells for minors. One or two adult prisoners, so called educators, are usually kept in cells for boys.

Inhuman prison conditions are accompanied by psychological torture: juveniles are not allowed to work, continue education, or receive books and newspapers from their relatives; books from prison library are not often available, on week days inmates receive only one newspaper per cell.

Conditions in IVS cells are even worse than in SIZOs.


SOURCE: http://www.prison.org/english/rpovcj.htm
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By Comrade Ogilvy
#205454
Tovarish Spetsnaz wrote:Reagrdless if the crimes were carried out for political motives or not...they were called political crimes in the USSR.


Thank you, and thank you for not being so rude this time.
By Tovarish Spetsnaz
#205455
Oh...I wasn't rude...I was just joking. I just didn't want this to turn into a political discussion...just staistics if you don't mind.

You'll get used to my strange sense of humor...I don't mean to be rude.
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By Comrade Ogilvy
#205460
Oh, well I thank you then for clearing that up. Also, I apologise for the misunderstanding on my own part.

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