Is Israel European?

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Is Israel European?#13188554

By Dr House - 06 Oct 2009 03:29

- 06 Oct 2009 03:29 #13188554

After the "is _ European" meme, I thought I'd post another legit European-ness poll.

So, is it? Why or why not?

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By Nets - 06 Oct 2009 03:31

- 06 Oct 2009 03:31 #13188557

No.

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By Dr House - 06 Oct 2009 03:32

- 06 Oct 2009 03:32 #13188558

Why not?

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design." -F.A. Hayek

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By Aekos - 06 Oct 2009 03:35

- 06 Oct 2009 03:35 #13188564

Yes

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By Igor Antunov - 06 Oct 2009 03:39

- 06 Oct 2009 03:39 #13188568

It's as European as Lebanon.

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By Fasces - 06 Oct 2009 03:40

- 06 Oct 2009 03:40 #13188570

It is neither geographically nor culturally European. Israel has a very high Muslim minority, and the Jews were never quite European to begin with - hence centuries of aggression by European societies.

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By Aekos - 06 Oct 2009 03:41

- 06 Oct 2009 03:41 #13188573

Oh wait I change my answer to "No"

I was thinking of "European" and not "European European"

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By W01f - 06 Oct 2009 03:42

- 06 Oct 2009 03:42 #13188576

No, less so than Turkey and the Anglosphere. I'd like to hear someone justify how it is though, aside from the fact that a lot of Europeans/Russians Jews live there.

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By Aekos - 06 Oct 2009 03:51

- 06 Oct 2009 03:51 #13188587

No, less so than Turkey

I wouldn't go that far

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By Meslocusist - 06 Oct 2009 03:56

- 06 Oct 2009 03:56 #13188594

I voted yes, but I think the best description is semi-European. Perhaps on par with the Balkans, so not European like France or Germany, but European like the less Europeanized parts of Europe.

Semi-European, perhaps, or very heavily influenced by Europe.

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By Aekos - 06 Oct 2009 03:57

- 06 Oct 2009 03:57 #13188597

Perhaps on par with the Balkans, so not European like France or Germany, but European like the less Europeanized parts of Europe.

What the fuck's "Europeanized" supposed to mean?

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By robin1 - 06 Oct 2009 04:13

- 06 Oct 2009 04:13 #13188622

What does European here mean? White?

(And yeah "European European" and "Europeanized"... um, wtf?)

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By Captain Sam - 06 Oct 2009 04:39

- 06 Oct 2009 04:39 #13188677

I'd consider Israel Western, but I wouldn't consider it European.

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By Ter - 06 Oct 2009 04:47

- 06 Oct 2009 04:47 #13188690

Until a few months ago, I would have said no, but it seems Turkey is now considered part of Europe so now I voted yes. I visited both Turkey and Israel several times and I get the same feeling in both places.

Ter

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By Varilion - 06 Oct 2009 06:46

- 06 Oct 2009 06:46 #13188813

it's like an european island in the Mediterranean sea.

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By Decky - 06 Oct 2009 07:16

- 06 Oct 2009 07:16 #13188848

No as it is not in Europe, what is so hard about this?

Some people are nobody's enemies but their own.

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By ingliz - 06 Oct 2009 09:41

- 06 Oct 2009 09:41 #13188973

"All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred and schizophrenia" Orwell

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By redcarpet - 06 Oct 2009 11:00

- 06 Oct 2009 11:00 #13189013

No, neither by geography or culture. In my view.

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By stalker - 06 Oct 2009 11:47

- 06 Oct 2009 11:47 #13189029

Yes.

In the sense that the Crusader kingdoms during the Middle Ages were "European", being outposts of a European ideological project that could only survive in the long-term with European / Western aid. (I think that would be a good historical analogy).

PS. This is not to disparage Israel, which is in many ways an excellent country, but to recognize it for what it is.

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By Igor Antunov - 06 Oct 2009 11:59

- 06 Oct 2009 11:59 #13189035

Yes.

In the sense that the Crusader kingdoms during the Middle Ages were "European", being outposts of a European ideological project that could only survive in the long-term with European / Western aid. (I think that would be a good historical analogy).

So...Australia is European? This is getting a bit silly you guys.