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#15314511
ingliz wrote:Obviously, not.

But you have said you would genocide your enemies the Jews, ethnically cleanse Blacks, and treat half-castes passing white as second-class citizens as you don't consider them to be white.

I would create links to you saying these things, but the server load is too high, and the search function doesn't work.


:)


You regularly claim that I believe things that I simply do not believe. You and the Mexican here are obsessed with writing fan fiction about me. And clearly nothing you say is in good faith.

Obviously your reason for hating me is not because you are afraid I would hurt the jews. It is for things I have actually stated clearly: I believe white people are a legitimate people and I want us to have the right to exist and to have sovereignty over some piece of land on earth.
#15314546
FiveofSwords wrote:You regularly claim that I believe things that I simply do not believe. You and the Mexican here are obsessed with writing fan fiction about me. And clearly nothing you say is in good faith.

Obviously your reason for hating me is not because you are afraid I would hurt the jews. It is for things I have actually stated clearly: I believe white people are a legitimate people and I want us to have the right to exist and to have sovereignty over some piece of land on earth.


:lol: The Mexican. He believes white people are legit. They need some land. Because the lower 48 states and Alaska and Hawaii is just not enough land to have. Lol.

I keep thinking Don Black wanted Dominica, and could not get it. But he can go to Idaho, do the compound.

He might go to Vermont one of the most white states in the USA, but Bernie the Jewish Democratic socialist is a senator there. The maple syrup and guns might not be a good balance after all to whiteness. :lol:

Mexican is the same as Spanish that is the same as Cuban that is the same....this is the issue with defining whiteness. They have a hard time. With diversity.

He can move to Scotland @Potemkin, after all you guys have Donald Trump's mother Mary Trump as a Scottish woman. You have a lot of bad racists from your ethnic group in the USA. Add another one to the mix. Have the neighbors near you in Edinburgh give a permanent all white home to the Neo Nazis from Stormfront in Edinburgh. I wonder how well that is going to go over with the neighbors. They do not like Americans much in Edinburgh.



You might run into some violations to the new hate crime and public order act. LOL.



You might get some of the American Neo Nazis of pure Scottish blood testing out the boundaries of the new law from 2021. Hee hee.
#15314549
Tainari88 wrote::lol: The Mexican. He believes white people are legit. They need some land. Because the lower 48 states and Alaska and Hawaii is just not enough land to have. Lol.

I keep thinking Don Black wanted Dominica, and could not get it. But he can go to Idaho, do the compound.

He might go to Vermont one of the most white states in the USA, but Bernie the Jewish Democratic socialist is a senator there. The maple syrup and guns might not be a good balance after all to whiteness. :lol:

Mexican is the same as Spanish that is the same as Cuban that is the same....this is the issue with defining whiteness. They have a hard time. With diversity.

He can move to Scotland @Potemkin, after all you guys have Donald Trump's mother Mary Trump as a Scottish woman. You have a lot of bad racists from your ethnic group in the USA. Add another one to the mix. Have the neighbors near you in Edinburgh give a permanent all white home to the Neo Nazis from Stormfront in Edinburgh. I wonder how well that is going to go over with the neighbors. They do not like Americans much in Edinburgh.



You might run into some violations to the new hate crime and public order act. LOL.



You might get some of the American Neo Nazis of pure Scottish blood testing out the boundaries of the new law from 2021. Hee hee.


You can't get anything right lol. I thought we established that I am black.
#15314559
Pants-of-dog wrote:Well, it can not be anywhere in the Americas.


Lol nobody is going to give us anything, of course. We can only acquire things the same way we always did...by conquest. I would be open to any and all available opportunities. But it would be dictated by circumstances which are obviously outside my control. Obviously our first task would have to be ending the American regime...and in that specific task we have many allies
#15314563
FiveofSwords wrote:Lol nobody is going to give us anything, of course. We can only acquire things the same way we always did...by conquest. I would be open to any and all available opportunities. But it would be dictated by circumstances which are obviously outside my control. Obviously our first task would have to be ending the American regime...and in that specific task we have many allies


I would think that the first step would be figuring out who is actually white.

You seem to be having trouble with that, though.
#15314565
Pants-of-dog wrote:I would think that the first step would be figuring out who is actually white.

You seem to be having trouble with that, though.

Well you can work on that if you like. I personally think I have a very good grasp on who is white, so I am not worried about it. But no...I really don't have anything philosophical to work out nor do I need to explain that to anyone. The rest is just politics.
#15314568
FiveofSwords wrote:Well you can work on that if you like. I personally think I have a very good grasp on who is white, so I am not worried about it. But no...I really don't have anything philosophical to work out nor do I need to explain that to anyone. The rest is just politics.


You have not yet been able to communicate to anyone else a reasonable or rational or consistent definition of whiteness.

If you are not interested in communicating your ideas to people who respond critically, a blog might be better for you,
#15314584
Pants-of-dog wrote:You have not yet been able to communicate to anyone else a reasonable or rational or consistent definition of whiteness.

If you are not interested in communicating your ideas to people who respond critically, a blog might be better for you,


I gave you a perfectly good definition actually, you just lack the ability to understand it.
#15314586
FiveofSwords wrote:I gave you a perfectly good definition actually, you just lack the ability to understand it.


I understood it well enough to point out it includes people from Latin America.

You seem to disagree with that but still think the definition works.

Do you want some help?

Whiteness is a social construct made up by some white people to rationalize their racism.

There you go. A realistic, intelligent, logical, and supportable definition of whiteness.
#15314589
Pants-of-dog wrote:I understood it well enough to point out it includes people from Latin America.

You seem to disagree with that but still think the definition works.

Do you want some help?

Whiteness is a social construct made up by some white people to rationalize their racism.

There you go. A realistic, intelligent, logical, and supportable definition of whiteness.


Like I said. You lack the ability to understand it. It is just that simple.

And fyi... if there are no white people then they cannot be racist.
#15314590
@FiveofSwords

Gassing Jews ...

"This is because the national socialists were serious about their beliefs. They were not pretending. They genuinely believed jews are an existential threat."

You say you are a National Socialist.

Are you serious about your beliefs?

Are we to read your badly parsed quote as

'They [National Socialists] genuinely believe Jews are an existential threat.'

or

'They [National Socialists] genuinely believed Jews were an existential threat.'

Tenses matter when you are thinking of sending Jews to the gas chambers.


:)
#15314592
First off the Nazis were National Socialists, but many ,many people have been National Socialists beside the Nazis. Atlee's Labour party was undoubtedly national socialist but they weren't fascist, unlike Xi's regime which is both national socialist and fascist. I'd probably call Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge national communist rather than national socialist.

I've never understood this obsession with gas chambers. What's so bad about killing people in gas chambers? The Romanians exterminated huge numbers of Jews, but no one ever seems to have any problem with that. Is that because they didn't use gas chambers? I noticed when the BBC talked about the Romanian / German invasion of Odessa, They didn't think it even merited a mention. I believe the Nazis were mistaken in seeing the Jews as an existential threat. However if Arabs living in Gaza or the West Bank were to see Jews as an existential threat, I wouldn't see that as a totally irrational belief.
#15314593
@Rich

@FiveofSwords has already said he is a National Socialist of the Nazi persuasion and more than hinted that the Jews are the enemy several times.

"thr palestinians and myself have a common enemy."

FiveofSwords


:)
#15314600
FiveofSwords wrote:You can't get anything right lol. I thought we established that I am black.


Swordy projecting your own problems onto others is the hallmark of the insecure. Yes, you are black right.

Lol.

You should consider doing a blog like Pants suggests. Because you refuse to explain anything well.

If you can't explain anything then it all becomes Si Me Comprendieras...If you only understood me.

We are not going to buy your excuses of lack of reading comprehension on our part, and how we are retarded mentally, and how you are way above our level, and how you bring greatness that is perfection.

Again, it all boils down to what and who you write about. Period.

Not anything else. You write about what is relevant to you.

If you can't define whiteness that is not about how people look only? Because we already went over how Jews and others can look white and Aryan as hell and be Jewish people and they are your stated enemies? Then who is going to be white in the National Socialist criteria? Everyone from Europe that looks white on the outside only? Or just certain groups? Or only people who get tested and meet the less than 1% test of no black African sub Saharan ancestry, and if they are from the Middle East how much African heritage can they claim? How about Indigenous? Asians? Pacific Islanders? How many can be white National Socialists if the percentages of DNA are met?

No answer to that? Then your entire White genocide claim is TRASH. Trash theories with blurry criteria and it is all socially constructed. Discard science and deal with MYTH.

But if you can't? And wish to evade debating your own claims?

Go get a blog and stop boring people to tears here. Nothing for them to debate. End of the story.

Si me comprendieras....

:violin:
#15314606
Rich wrote:First off the Nazis were National Socialists, but many ,many people have been National Socialists beside the Nazis. Atlee's Labour party was undoubtedly national socialist but they weren't fascist, unlike Xi's regime which is both national socialist and fascist. I'd probably call Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge national communist rather than national socialist.

I've never understood this obsession with gas chambers. What's so bad about killing people in gas chambers?The Romanians exterminated huge numbers of Jews, but no one ever seems to have any problem with that. Is that because they didn't use gas chambers? I noticed when the BBC talked about the Romanian / German invasion of Odessa, They didn't think it even merited a mention. I believe the Nazis were mistaken in seeing the Jews as an existential threat. However if Arabs living in Gaza or the West Bank were to see Jews as an existential threat, I wouldn't see that as a totally irrational belief.


What is so bad about killing Jews in gas chambers?

Sometimes I think you are really on the edge of sociopathic thought Rich.

You got to respect human life. All human life.

It is not easy having to give birth to a baby human being, and raising them to adulthood and giving them their chance to blossom and manifest which is between late teens to early forties and beyond. Then people start declining and they expire. But they have their time in the sun. If that is interrupted you are damaging human society Rich. You have to respect human rights. All peoples' human rights. The problem always is with the people who only care about the rights of their own ethnic group and dehumanize everyone else. For whatever reason. Oh, they are primitive, they are inferior, they are dumb, they are not really human, filthy animals, etc. Once that happens you can go and slaughter people with little remorse.

Unless you are a sociopath or psychopath? You should care about the rights of other people and the rights of all ethnicities on planet Earth.
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