jessupjonesjnr87 wrote:There's just too many people on this planet for everyone to just start winging it. We need some kind of organised co-operation or realistically everything will turn to chaos. The problem with libertarians in the US is that they know this but have the attitude that they are entitled to some kind of special treatment because they live in remote areas, but If these areas did start receiving special treatment and exclusion from state laws they wouldn't remain remote for long.
As I said already libertarianism's extremes are only a reflection of the extreme oppression in America, neither side is reasonable.
I don't know whether you care or not but libertarian alternatives to every govt service has been discussed in detail throughout this forum. I recommend searching this subforum. I also recommend searching for posts by Eran, with notable contributions from all the libertarians here.
I can't speak for US libertarians but the libertarians I know are distinctly unique in that they
do not have any kind of entitlement attitude, it is the opposite that is true. Libertarians fiercely oppose entitlement that results in property being taken from some and given to others.
Libertarians generally do not expect any meaningful changes in their lifetime, it is simply a hope. A libertarian society
requires most members to broadly agree with the principle that stealing and other forms of aggression are wrong. In a way we are getting there. In western countries monarchy and authoritarian rule, racism, women's lack of rights, slavery etc are all a thing of the embarrassing past (for most people, and broadly speaking). We slowly move on. If you look all over the globe there are examples of certain aspects of privately owned services that are government monopolies in other places. Private security, road building, welfare, schooling etc. It is not hard to imagine that as time goes on more of these private alternatives will exist in the same place and at the same time.
So yes it is extreme to most people. I don't think it is unreasonable and it has a lot going for it morally and economically.
“The art of economics consists in looking not merely at the immediate but at the longer effects of any act or policy; it consists in tracing the consequences of that policy not merely for one group but for all groups.”