[Godstud]

If you want to be in a country with no feminists, go move to Saudi Arabia. Women cannot drive. Women are hiding in plain sight because men and religious men want it that way.

This isn't true. Most countries that value traditional values and women, have little to no feminism, as they don't see value in it.

Thailand's a good example of a place where modern feminism isn't getting a foothold because women are already mostly free to do whatever they want(Freedom of Opportunity), and have not real restrictions, while benefiting from the advantages that being female has. eg. Not being included in the conscription/draft.

Are there some places this could improve? Of course. This isn't a general problem, however.

Most Latin American countries are similar.

Feminism is weakening Western cultures.

I think these types of Muslim countries go too far. But how can anyone change their structure? They prefer it that way. They let the church run them.

These are the exceptions. Most countries, even Muslim ones, are not like Saudi Arabia.

note: The Theocracies in those countries also rule the men.

Want to know what these countries have, too? They don't have millions of men in their prisons, the results of single parent homes.

Think about that. I am not condoning this. I merely want some contemplation.

[Tainari88]

@Godstud Misty wrote that not me.

[Unthinking Majority]

This isn't true. Most countries that value traditional values and women, have little to no feminism, as they don't see value in it.

Thailand's a good example of a place where modern feminism isn't getting a foothold because women are already mostly free to do whatever they want(Freedom of Opportunity), and have not real restrictions, while benefiting from the advantages that being female has. eg. Not being included in the conscription/draft.

Are there some places this could improve? Of course. This isn't a general problem, however.

Most Latin American countries are similar.

Feminism is weakening Western cultures.

These are the exceptions. Most countries, even Muslim ones, are not like Saudi Arabia.

note: The Theocracies in those countries also rule the men.

Want to know what these countries have, too? They don't have millions of men in their prisons, the results of single parent homes.

Think about that. I am not condoning this. I merely want some contemplation.

Western morality used to be governed by Christianity. My grandfather said that religion, for all its faults, kept people from turning into animals. Maybe he had a point.

Education now means "god is dead", the West has rejected religion as moral authority. We now create our own morality. As an overreaction to the repression that Christianity/religion caused, we've doubled down on hedonism, personal liberty, self-absorption, we value self-interest and "doing whatever feels good" over most else. Drugs, sex, careers, travel, fancy cars smartphones and smartwatches...and not having children because kids will take lots of time, money, and energy away from our ability to do or acquire everything just mentioned. "The family" has been devalued, because you have to be responsible for someone else's wants and needs instead of just your own.

I think Islam takes things to the other extreme, total control and repression, also unhealthy. But in 150 years we will see that through all its faults, at least Muslim culture is sustainable.

Young men have been so emasculated and coddled, and deemed so unneeded by both women and society that many of them spend their days in front of screens fulfilling fantasies with video games and porn that they don't feel they can achieve in real life. Only a strong male role model can save them from this fate. But since more boys are now raised by single moms than just about at any other point in human history, and most of their teachers are women too, it means they're fucked, and many of the married dad are also emasculated & submissive, and so the young men have to search out mentors like Jordan Peterson to help give them the direction they never had. And all the feminists and emasculated men try to tear Peterson down because he challenges what they have achieved ideologically.

[Godstud]

Oops! I fixed it @Tainari88!

[Rich]

Feminism has also led to an epidemic of single mothers.

This is a filthy lie that I hear repeated over and over and over again! I've lost count of the number of times I've heard this or something similar. So my attack is definitely not personal to you. But you have yourself disproved it in this very thread.

This isn't true. Most countries that value traditional values and women, have little to no feminism, as they don't see value in it.

Thailand's a good example of a place where modern feminism isn't getting a foothold because women are already mostly free to do whatever they want(Freedom of Opportunity), and have not real restrictions, while benefiting from the advantages that being female has. eg. Not being included in the conscription/draft.

Are there some places this could improve? Of course. This isn't a general problem, however.

Most Latin American countries are similar.

Feminism is weakening Western cultures.

Brazil has over 20 million single mothers

The epidemic of single mothers is the fault of the capitalists and the engineers and the scientists. Why are westerners so stupid? What the fuck did they think was going to happen if they had an industrial revolution? In the east in China and Japan they had some intelligence, some understanding. They tried to resist the infestation of these new technologies. They understood that these new technologies would undermine and destroy the moral fabric of their societies. But the West forced them them to open up.

Even in Saudi Arabia, the rot has set in. They've allowed women to drive. They've started down the road to making men redundant. Even in Saudi Arabia the destruction of the traditional male identity is in full swing. And you can't blame that on the feminists.

[Rugoz]

Feminism has also led to an epidemic of single mothers. Then you have children who grow up in single parent homes and suffer all the statistical negatives that go along with that. That and an epidemic of abortions.

Effects of Fatherlessness – Teenage Statistics
63% of all youth suicides,
70% of all teen pregnancies,
71% of all adolescent chemical/substance abusers,
80% of all prison inmates, and
90% of all homeless and runaway children, came from single mother homes.

Children brought up in single mother homes are:
5 times more likely to commit suicide,
9 times more likely to drop out of high school,
10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances,
14 times more likely to commit rape,
20 times more likely to end up in prison,
32 times more likely to run away from home.

Are you really that stupid? I have no hope for humanity.

[Rugoz]

What about anger and fury? Are these not legitimate emotions?

Being an angry asshole has never been socially acceptable. Stop blaming women for your problems.

[Skynet]

@Godstud

Divorce is under Asian-Americans the lowest also the income is highest, Afro-Americans have highest divorce rate and lowest income.

[Godstud]

This is a filthy lie that I hear repeated over and over and over again! I've lost count of the number of times I've heard this or something similar. So my attack is definitely not personal to you. But you have yourself disproved it in this very thread.

Sure... it's a filthy lie, but supported by reality and facts.

U.S. has world’s highest rate of children living in single-parent households
Almost a quarter of U.S. children under the age of 18 live with one parent and no other adults (23%), more than three times the share of children around the world who do so (7%). The study, which analyzed how people’s living arrangements differ by religion, also found that U.S. children from Christian and religiously unaffiliated families are about equally likely to live in this type of arrangement.

In comparison, 3% of children in China, 4% of children in Nigeria and 5% of children in India live in single-parent households. In neighboring Canada, the share is 15%.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2 ... ne-parent/

The epidemic of single mothers is the fault of the capitalists and the engineers and the scientists.

So the Feminist lie has nothing to do with it? You know the lie. Women don't need men. Look around a bit and you'll see this pushed everywhere in Social media.

Andrew Tate was recently silenced on this topic, by most social media platforms, because he got too many Feminists emotional. Others are being silenced, daily, because facts are not popular, especially if they are not sugar-coated, for the modern "woke" crowd.

It's especially bad because it's easy to take snippets of long diatribes, out of context, as TikTok and some other platforms do. Tate explained this in his interview with Piers Morgan(who never actually let him speak much, and interrupted him constantly- I'd recommend watching it).

This is indeed a Western phenomenon, given the rising divorce rate, diminishing marriage rates, abortion on demand and birth control, is it any wonder that the traditional nuclear family is dying and being replaced?

Are you really that stupid? I have no hope for humanity.

Did those facts trigger you?


The bottom line is that there is a large body of literature showing that children of single mothers are more likely to commit crimes than children who grow up with their married parents. This is true not just in the United States, but wherever the issue has been researched. Few experts, including Cohen, dispute this. Studies cannot prove conclusively that fatherlessness—or any other factor—actually causes people to commit crimes. For that, you'd have to do the impossible: take a large group of infants and raise each of them simultaneously in two precisely equivalent households—except one would be headed by a father and mother and the other by a lone mother. But by comparing criminals of the same race, education, income, and mother's education whose primary observable difference is family structure, social scientists have come as close as they can to making the causal case with the methodological tools available.
https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archi ... me/265860/

[ingliz]

Women don't need men

Biologically women need a man's sperm to fertilize their eggs. Not many men, mind you, 100 million sperm are released per ejaculation, and you only need one sperm to fertilize an egg.

Other than that, they are an ornament in today's world.

[Godstud]

Right, @ingliz, because women are a dominant force in maintenance of the infrastructure of modern life. Tons of female Plumbers, Electricians and Bricklayers out there...

To say men are an ornament is to ignore reality. It's sad to see you're as delusional as the feminists who believe this BS.

[Rich]

Divorce is under Asian-Americans the lowest also the income is highest, Afro-Americans have highest divorce rate and lowest income.

Black African Americans prove that feminism has reduced single motherhood not increased it. Tomas Sewell is a liar. The explosion of Black African American single motherhood began with the end of the second world war, not in the nineteen sixties. And I say that as someone who has great respect for Sewell and will happily admit my intellectual debt to him. Welfare policies might effect single motherhood at the margins, but to suggest it is the primary cause is cretinous.

However what we can be absolutely certain of is that single motherhood amongst Black African Americas was not caused by feminists, not even a little bit. I can assure you in the late nineteen forties the girls in the ghetto were not reading feminist literature, nor were they in the nineteen sixties. The data is unmistakeable on this. Those girls born to rich, "White" highly educated parents, those girls who have the highest exposure to feminist ideology have some of the lowest rates of single motherhood in America.

[ingliz]

delusional

Women can do anything a man can do. Technology has made men redundant.

[Godstud]

Women cannot do everything a man can do. That's delusion. Technology has not made males redundant. That's simply you trolling being stupid.

[ingliz]

Women cannot do everything a man can do.

What is it women cannot do? Change a plug? Pipe in a toilet? Build a wall? A quick google shows women doing all these things.

[Godstud]

Really? When's the last time you saw a female bricklayer, plumber, carpenter, electrician, etc.?

Answer? You haven't.

Outliers are statistically insignificant.

[ingliz]

Outliers?

13 percent of the construction industry in the UK is made up of women, according to ONS figures.

[Godstud]

Where are the statistics? You moved the decimal place.

Women working in construction numbered 1.5 percent of the entire U.S. workforce in 2018.

Occupation Sector Percentage
Sales & Office 28%
Professional & Management 44%
Natural Resources, Construction & Maintenance 1%
Service Occupations 21.1%
Production, Transportation & Material Moving 5.9%
https://www.nawic.org/statistics

[ingliz]

Anyway, you didn't answer the question.

Is there any job a woman cannot do in the modern workplace just because she is a woman? And the answer is No.

I don't care what a woman chooses to do with her life. Housewife or steeplejack, it's up to them.

Why do you?

[Rich]

:lol: Really? When's the last time you saw a female bricklayer, plumber, carpenter, electrician, etc.?

One of my friends, is a female electrician, but you are correct its the exception for many of these trades. Even soldiers, the PKK in Syria showed that women might not as good as men at fighting on average but they can be good enough. Men were absolutely vital to the successes of the PKK in Syria, but that's much more to do with their psychological propensity to aggression than superior technical capability. @ingliz is absolutely correct men aren't even needed any longer for human reproduction.

Feminism failed in a similar way to Communism. The Communists were always trying to make out that it was just evil Capitalists and Imperialists that were stopping us having paradise on Earth, but really the problem was that the working class the proletariat both rural and urban could never be what the Communists fantasied they could be. In the same way Radical feminism has failed not because of men, but because on the whole women make very bad feminists.

The proof is in the pudding. Dating apps have showed that almost 100% of women are picking the top 10-15% of men. They restrict their own dating pool and then complain that there are not enough good men out there. There are. They are ignoring them because they aren't good enough.

Yes this is an important point. There's often this idea from the Liberals that if a right wing man has trouble getting a girl friend they only need to drop their right wing ideas, get a job and they will have no problem getting a girl friend. When in reality its often the jobless, homeless busker that gets the girl, in fact gets multiple girls. Of course they may want to keep complaining about what arsehole these men are that they continually select to have sex with.