late wrote:A lot of the Founding Fathers were Deists, not Christians.
If you move onto the building of the Modern world, after the Civil War, things got more secular. In the 20th century, things got even more secular, look at the Separation rulings.
The Right likes to pretend their fantasies are history, but they aren't...
I'm not talking about the Founding Fathers, or even political institutions, I'm talking about society as a whole. The Founding Fathers were secularists yes, I'm not making any argument that the US is a Christian polity. I'm arguing that most Americans and Westerners in those days were Christians with Christian-informed values and moral code. I'm not religious myself in any way.
I'm not arguing for a return to religion, I'm saying society has been on an ongoing project to define new values for itself, which is fine, but is a more difficult task than most assumed, including unintended consequences. Some of these new values have been good for society, some have been harmful, and some have been a mix of both. Same with traditional "Christian" values: some are good, some bad, some both. The problem I see in our abandoning of Christianity is that we threw the baby out with the bathwater. Meaning, hindsight 20/20, some of those traditional values were helpful for society, even if at the time they seemed outdated and no longer useful. I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I think we've gone a bit too far in places.
This extends to defining new gender roles too. If we're going to redefine gender roles for men and women and abandon those that functioned for many thousands of years, we had better think this through carefully, it's not only about "my rights", there are many consequences (good, bad, and in-between) to changing the fundamental relations between men and women, including on the family and children. ie: If men are no longer "the sole providers" and women have careers, but men don't pick up the slack domestically, how is this affecting the family unit and our kids? Or their parents when they're elderly and need care? Thus far the answer has been to have far fewer children, stick the ones we have in daycares, put our parents in retirement homes/longterm care facilities, and now families need 2 incomes to afford that 1 income used to.
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All of a sudden these pro-Palestinian campus protestors gladly support illegally occupying land that doesn't belong to them, and enforcing checkpoints, blockades, and ethnic apartheid. Some of them even openly support genocide.