- 10 Feb 2021 21:36
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Well, if I don't agree with some of your assertions for athiestic or scientific reasons then I guess that's a derail and I have to go away.
I don't know the nature of time and the universe. But I disagree with you about the linear nature of time and the universe. It's quite probable there are cycles, since everything else in time/space that we know happens in cycles. Electrons orbit the nucleus. The moon orbits the earth. The earth orbits the sun. The solar system orbits the center of the galaxy. Galaxies form galaxy clusters, and clusters form supergalaxies etc, and they're all rotating. Stars burn bright and spread light, then turn to black holes and suck the light from everything.
The sun goes down, and it comes up again, and goes down again etc. Summer turn to winter, which turns to summer again, and continues. I think the universe itself probably exists in a similar cycle. There's probably some point where the universe stops expanding and starts shrinking to the point it crushes itself into a small dense ball, and then eventually explodes into another big bang, and this cycle occurs infinitely. An atom is one of many atoms, our solar system is one of many, our galaxy one of many, so it's likely our universe is one of many. Our universe and many other universes probably orbit something else we have no perception of. And these cycles are infinite.
Stars are born from matter in nebula, they shine bright, and then they die, its matter to be reborn again in something else. I think humans, animals, and plants exist in the same way. We come from the earth (water and minerals, or the water and minerals from plants/animals we eat), and are powered by the energy provided by the sun, and we will return to the earth when we die, where animals (worms and maggots etc) and plants will eat us just as we ate them.
Maybe, beyond our universe, there are other beings manipulating things, like scientists splitting the atom, and they have no idea where they themselves came from but are trying to figure it out just as we are. Maybe the big bang is like one of these scientists splitting the atom, with the energy of the universe being released in a giant explosion. We have no idea. As I said, we don't have all the answers, but we ask questions and figure out the nature of the universe and time/space slowly as we answer some of these questions. Maybe when I die I'll be proven wrong on all these things, and I'll visit God in the kingdom of heaven. or maybe i'll just be worm food.
annatar1914 wrote:@Unthinking Majority ;
I'm not asking you to ''go away'', I'm asking you to not ''derail''. That is, do you understand what I wrote in my OP, and are you willing to have a discussion based on my contentions or in some kind of disagreement with them?
You'll note I have never asked anyone what they believe up front, look at the other people who I have involved discussions with in this Sub-Forum.
Well, if I don't agree with some of your assertions for athiestic or scientific reasons then I guess that's a derail and I have to go away.
I don't know the nature of time and the universe. But I disagree with you about the linear nature of time and the universe. It's quite probable there are cycles, since everything else in time/space that we know happens in cycles. Electrons orbit the nucleus. The moon orbits the earth. The earth orbits the sun. The solar system orbits the center of the galaxy. Galaxies form galaxy clusters, and clusters form supergalaxies etc, and they're all rotating. Stars burn bright and spread light, then turn to black holes and suck the light from everything.
The sun goes down, and it comes up again, and goes down again etc. Summer turn to winter, which turns to summer again, and continues. I think the universe itself probably exists in a similar cycle. There's probably some point where the universe stops expanding and starts shrinking to the point it crushes itself into a small dense ball, and then eventually explodes into another big bang, and this cycle occurs infinitely. An atom is one of many atoms, our solar system is one of many, our galaxy one of many, so it's likely our universe is one of many. Our universe and many other universes probably orbit something else we have no perception of. And these cycles are infinite.
Stars are born from matter in nebula, they shine bright, and then they die, its matter to be reborn again in something else. I think humans, animals, and plants exist in the same way. We come from the earth (water and minerals, or the water and minerals from plants/animals we eat), and are powered by the energy provided by the sun, and we will return to the earth when we die, where animals (worms and maggots etc) and plants will eat us just as we ate them.
Maybe, beyond our universe, there are other beings manipulating things, like scientists splitting the atom, and they have no idea where they themselves came from but are trying to figure it out just as we are. Maybe the big bang is like one of these scientists splitting the atom, with the energy of the universe being released in a giant explosion. We have no idea. As I said, we don't have all the answers, but we ask questions and figure out the nature of the universe and time/space slowly as we answer some of these questions. Maybe when I die I'll be proven wrong on all these things, and I'll visit God in the kingdom of heaven. or maybe i'll just be worm food.