[War Angel]

The YNET source

Hmmm... seems like the lesson has not been learned. Is this a case of mental retardation?

[W01f]

Actually, it seems like Israel completely failed in its main objective, which was to stop the rockets or so they said. All those civilian deaths for nothing to those who believed Israel.

[War Angel]

Actually, it seems like Israel completely failed in its main objective (so they say), which was to stop the rockets. All those civilian deaths for nothing.

My point exactly - and since this was a unilateral cease-fire, I can't really blame Hamas for their continued fire.. I am merely asserting, that we should return the favour.

We ended Cast Lead prematurely. We should renew it, and not stop until we're done. The elections are in 9 days, a right-wing government will be elected, and then we'll initiate in some good ol' arse-kicking.

[Grunch]

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[War Angel]

From the revised article:

"Two hours later, Palestinians open fire at IDF force near border fence."

[Grunch]

are you surprised that people are resisting an occupation

[Nattering Nabob]

I am sure that after Isreal retaliates someone will claim that Isreal broke the ceasefire.


Just like last time...

[War Angel]

are you surprised that people are resisting an occupation

Not at all - except there's no occupation in Gaza.

I am sure that after Isreal retaliates someone will claim that Isreal broke the ceasefire.


Just like last time...

Aye. Same as always - see the post above.

[sploop!]

Obviously, Gaza is occupied. Stop telling lies.

Israel did break the ceasefire last time. Stop telling lies.

Lies don't really cover the crime.

[War Angel]

Obviously, Gaza is occupied. Stop telling lies.

Imaginary soldiers? Hell - even Israeli civilians are no longer in Gaza! We ethnically-cleansed all Jewish inhabitants of that area.

Israel did break the ceasefire last time. Stop telling lies.

Not this time, not last time, either.

[sploop!]

There is an interesting article on the subject of the occupation here: [url=http://www.fmreview.org/FMRpdfs/FMR26/FMR2608.pdf.]Iain Scobbie is the Sir Joseph Hotung Research Professor in Law, Human Rights and Peace Building in the Middle East at the School of Oriental and African Studies, University
of London[/url]

It makes absolutely no difference that Israel is guarding the perimeter of an open prison rather than standing over Palestinian women and children with guns. Either way, by international law, it is an occupation.

And whatever you say, Israel broke the ceasefire last time by completely failing to keep to its side of the agreement. Even if you want to be really picky and childish about it, the very first rocket launched, only a day into the ceasefire, came from the Israeli side according to a source previously provided by Nattering Nabob to support his Islamophobic remarks about Hamas. source

[danholo]

are you surprised that people are resisting an occupation

Nobody here is surprised - Hamas' and many Arabs' stated goal is the destruction of Israel i.e. "the occupation". Did you know that Hamas and many Palestinians consider those areas, which are under Palestinian "control" (Gaza, PA areas) in the land between the Mediterranean and the Jordan River to be "liberated" Palestine? Of course not; you actually believe these people have a legitimate right to their primitive ways of "resistance", and not actually build something today so their children could have a future.

[War Angel]

Either way, by international law, it is an occupation.

No, it is not. It's called 'borders', and most countries have them, and they're not supposed to be a nice thing. Our borders are closed - Egypt can open its own, if they want.

And whatever you say, Israel broke the ceasefire last time by completely failing to keep to its side of the agreement.

"LA LA LA I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY LA LA LA!!!"

What about this one, sploop! ? A charge placed against Israeli patrols, then rockets fired at Israeli civilians - who started this one, my Jew-busting friend?

[sploop!]

And you actually believe that Israel has done nothing to prevent that future being built? Are you blind? Resistance is the only path Israel has not been able to close. Israel can kill and destroy, blockade and bomb, imprison and impoverish, steal from and occupy Gaza, but the one thing beyond its control is the resistance.

The people of Gaza have a legitimate right to exist, and to fight for that existence.

Re: War Angle...

Israel does not have borders. Israel has ceasefire lines and other lines that seem to expand all the time like the waistline of a fat old Nazi war-criminal nesting in some out of the way place.

A charge placed against Israeli patrols, then rockets fired at Israeli civilians - who started this one, my Jew-busting friend?

I believe that may have been Israel, when it decided to kill hundreds of unarmed Palestinians with White Phosphorus bombs, injure thousands more, and deliberately target schools, hospitals and roads and bridges. That little stunt last month has guaranteed that the conflict will continue for the next decade. And that's what Israel wanted all along isn't it? Because it ensures that a stable Palestinian state is pushed yet further away into the future whilst the racist bigots of Israel continue to loosen the belt around their Nazi arses and expand just a little further into the land that does not belong to them.

[War Angel]

... and you evade a direct, honest answer once more, with your inelegant Jew-bashing techniques. We've all heard your ramblings before, there's no need to write them down again - we know Jews are evil, we know Israel is the source of aforementioned evil... really.

Israel stopped its latest incursion. It did not attack, and has ceased all aggressions. The Palestinian Arabs within Gaza have attacked Israeli soldiers and civilians - what have you got to say to that, sploopy-boy?

[danholo]

The people of Gaza have a legitimate right to exist, and to fight for that existence.

And has anybody proposed or suggested otherwise, sploop!? You're a great Hamas spokesperson, and you're not even on their payroll!

And you actually believe that Israel has done nothing to prevent that future being built? Are you blind? Resistance is the only path Israel has not been able to close. Israel can kill and destroy, blockade and bomb, imprison and impoverish, steal from and occupy Gaza, but the one thing beyond its control is the resistance.

This resistance... it's like porn to you? Those occupied, oppressed and helpless Palestinians. They have nothing, right? All you see on TV or newspapers is some poor Palestinian kid on his destroyed home. I guess you view the territories as being a desolate wasteland destroyed and usurped by Jews, huh?

What are these people "resisting"? The people in Sderot... In Be'er Sheva? WHAT ARE THEY RESISTING? The people touting resistance are mostly fanatical retards, who think God will restore some Utopia "that was". Have fun with that.

[sploop!]

danholo...

And has anybody proposed or suggested otherwise, sploop!?

Not this week, anyway. It isn't what is said as much as what is done. Israel has gone out of its way to prevent the people of Palestine from living the lives they are entitled to by employing a policy of harassment and blockade backed up with threats and bombs. This is a war on the people of Palestine that Israel wants to hide from the world. Very much like the war the Nazis launched against the Jews. What Israel is doing to Palestine is Israel's grubby little racist secret.

Those occupied, oppressed and helpless Palestinians. They have nothing, right? All you see on TV or newspapers is some poor Palestinian kid on his destroyed home. I guess you view the territories as being a desolate wasteland destroyed and usurped by Jews, huh?

And there was me thinking you didn't understand. That's exactly what I see.

What are these people "resisting"?

They are resisting you, danholo. They are resisting you.

War Angel...

Israel stopped its latest incursion. It did not attack, and has ceased all aggressions. The Palestinian Arabs within Gaza have attacked Israeli soldiers and civilians - what have you got to say to that, sploopy-boy?

I did actually answer this. Just because Israel has run out of schools and hospitals to destroy doesn't mean they can just cry 'Enough', and magically, that is what happens. Israel started a war on the people of Gaza 60 years ago and it isn't over yet. What did you expect? Did you really think that all those dead children would encourage the resistance to stop resisting?

Israel has not stopped all aggressions. You know that. Gaza is still occupied, and the territorial waters of Palestine and their air-space are still controlled by the invading force.

It isn't that the Jews are evil. So stop your whinging. The problem is that Israel is evil.

[skinster]

oh noes! three rockets? nevermind the bombs and chemical weapons attacks on the people of gaza recently, not to mention the imprisonement, occupation, blockade ETC. ETC. ETC. No Palestinians...roll over and die. that's what you're meant to do, duh.

Israeli zionists adopt the same short-sightedness that America often displays - a common occurance amongst these 2 states that are so young...

zzzzzzzzzzz.

[Nattering Nabob]

That little stunt last month has guaranteed that the conflict will continue for the next decade. And that's what Israel wanted all along isn't it? Because it ensures that a stable Palestinian state is pushed yet further away into the future whilst the racist bigots of Israel continue to loosen the belt around their Nazi arses and expand just a little further into the land that does not belong to them.

Have a drink and settle down a little...you sound like some radical who is ready to graduate from throwing shoes at politicians to killing civilians with a strap on ticket to heaven.

[sploop!]

Have a drink and settle down a little...you sound like some radical who is ready to graduate from throwing shoes at politicians to killing civilians with a strap on ticket to heaven.

I'm sure that sounded like a smart comment when you made it, but here's the truth. The last few weeks have probably pushed many people past the point where throwing a shoe feels like it is enough. I'm not even directly affected by the Israeli massacre of innocent Palestinians and I don't feel it is enough. I'm sure if I had seen my whole family murdered by laughing IDF Nazi-zealots, I would know, for sure, that throwing a shoe is not enough. It's not enough. Have a drink and settle down? Tell it to the Palestinians.