[night games]

An Arab citizen of Israel tries to damage her country, where she has rights and benefits like no other country in the middle east. The video is impressive because it shows how great is their hate regardless their real condition, wonder how will be the situation in Europe, will they be grateful or treacherous like this one? The Palestinian hate has nothing to do with oppression or despair rather hate and envy.


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[Sphinx]

You have a right to free speech as long as you say what makes us happy.

[Zionist Nationalist]

You have a right to free speech as long as you say what makes us happy.

maybe thats the way things work in Egypt. in Israel there is a free speech although things are not perfect as in any other country

[Sphinx]

I am responding to the OP.

[Zionist Nationalist]

I think opening this thread was a big mistake.

I really tired of this forum section I dont know why I even bother posting here I once ignored this section and than came back dont know why.

[Heinie]

I too would hate to be a Palestinian living in the Jewish state.

[night games]

ZN, what's wrong with the OP? You can see from Heinie's answer what the Palestinian cause is all about. The Germans fight the Jews through the Pal cause, the loud speaker of their (apartheid) campaign is so strong that even those who are neutral, tend to believe to their propaganda.

What will bring the future to Europe? Now that these ungrateful masses are moving to Europe, mainly Germany, which is adored by the Arabs because they killed so many Jews. Would it be different from Israel or France, or in the end Germany will get the same reaction?


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Another reason is that Germany enjoys a good image in the Muslim world: they killed many Jews, they are friendly with everyone (including ISIS and Al Qaeda) and they are still very tolerant of Islam.

[Rich]

Why does the world remain silent about this: What It’s Like to Be an Atheist in Palestine

Waleed Al Husseini spent 10 months in Palestinian prison for being an atheist blogger. He asks why non-believers like himself are abandoned by the world.

Like many non-religious people around the world, I use the Internet to express my thoughts. It provides a relatively safe way of speaking freely, especially in a country where the vast majority believe in one religion and do not like to hear criticism. Or so I thought.

I used to run a blog in Arabic called “Nour Alakl” and ran a satirical Facebook page under the pseudonym “Allah.” But in October 2010, Palestinian security forces stormed into an Internet cafe and arrested me. Until then, I had been under the impression that I had a right to freedom of speech and to the freedom of belief. But in jail, I was told that my online statements about religion and Islam were illegal. I was told that society didn’t accept such criticisms.

I was beaten by prison guards who demanded to know who had made me write against Islam. In their minds, I could only say these things as the result of some plot, some conspiracy. The idea that I might simply want to express my independent thoughts was alien to them.

The 10 months I spent in Palestinian prison were the worse of my life. I faced constant pressure to retract my statements. I was told they had removed my blog and that I must apologize for publishing it. Even once I was freed, I was told I should never again use the Internet, nor meet with the media.

For months after my release, I was harassed by the security services, who further interrogated me and detained me without cause. I received letters from people saying they wanted to kill me.

My views, however, cannot be changed by a prison sentence or by persecution. I still believe that Islam often stands in opposition to human rights and women’s rights. I believe that the Qur’an relays that Muhammad demanded death for non-believers. Many Muslims may disagree with my view, or interpret Islam in a more moderate way, but I cannot accept this religion myself. That is what my conscience tells me.

I am an atheist. I believe in human rights. I have the right to say these things.

Whose fault was it that I was treated so unjustly? Islam is religion, but it is also a culture. Certainly some people simply cannot stand to live alongside someone who does not conform to their views.

I eventually left the West Bank for Jordan with a visa I obtained from the French embassy. I am now in Paris, and have applied for asylum. After six months, I am still waiting for an answer, and it has become harder and harder as time goes on.

From here I have the chance to blog in Arabic and in English as “Proud Atheist,” but I am now effectively in exile. I am living alone in a foreign city, cut off from friends and family, all because of my words.

I still do not feel safe. If I cannot stay here, and if I am not protected, then there’s a chance the Palestinian Authority will arrest me again. That is my fear. I want to be active, but safety is my priority.

My hope is that the international community cares for those like me who are persecuted simply for speaking their minds, to stand against the laws in any country which limits basic freedoms of thought and expression. We are human, and freedom means living our lives without hurting others. Sadly, laws throughout the Middle East—from North Africa to the Gulf—limit the rights of religious minorities and non-believers.

The international community should do more to protect the plight of these people. There are many of us who need to talk and be reached out to, even if we use fake Facebook accounts for our safety. We must express our thoughts and ourselves. We simply must be allowed this basic freedom.

[night games]

A unique video from Jerusalem. Jews and Muslims from abroad (probably not Palestinians) are praying together in Jerusalem. The Jews for Shavout festival and the Muslims for the Ramadan

[redcarpet]

There is a system of separation based on ethnicity in the OPT, but not in Israel itself.



http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Wheres-the-international-outcry-against-Arab-apartheid

Where’s the international outcry against Arab apartheid? The Jerusalem Post asks. I think I know the answer.....

[Heinie]

Everyone knows that Arab "Israelis" are second class citizens there although they have their own version of the odd Uncle Tom.

[layman]

In that case, every arab state in the region is "Apartheid"

Boycott them too ... no? .. oh, interesting ...

[wat0n]

Which countries have no disadvantaged minorities, anyway? Even Western ones do.

[Heinie]

In that case, every arab state in the region is "Apartheid"

Boycott them too ... no? .. oh, interesting ...

The topic of this thread is Israeli Apartheid. Stop trying to change the subject.

[Zionist Nationalist]

The topic of this thread is Israeli Apartheid. Stop trying to change the subject.

Arab citizens of Israel are not 2nd class citizens they have every right that Jews have. they only cannot work in certain places that have some connection to the military or ministry of defense.

[wat0n]

The topic of this thread is Israeli Apartheid. Stop trying to change the subject.

Translation: "I can't defend my poor claims when provided with examples of discrimination elsewhere that is not labeled Apartheid, because I can't admit that such term is only reserved for Israel".

Not everyone falls for that, though. Most people certainly don't.

[Heinie]

Arab citizens of Israel are not 2nd class citizens they have every right that Jews have. they only cannot work in certain places that have some connection to the military or ministry of defense.

Israel is a "Jewish" state.

[redcarpet]

Israel is a "Jewish" state.

That doesn't make Arabs 2nd class citizens. Having less rights does.

Well, they don't. Since 1948, how many rights has Israeli Arabs lost? Hmmmm? Not one. ZERO.

With two vertical columns, one for Jews one for Arabs, they're both at equal height. Always have been.

If you walk down the streets of an Israeli town, city, kibbutz, you will not see 'No Arab customers' signs on windows. Because it'd be illegal. Apartheid is illegal in Israel, the same as in any decent society.

[Rich]

The topic of this thread is Israeli Apartheid. Stop trying to change the subject.

That is the subject, why a certain group of people obsess about Israel while ignoring the terrible crimes committed by Muslims in neighbouring countries. Personally I would like to see us go to war with Saudi Arabia, but BDS of Saudi would be a good start. It is true that Orthodox Judaism is racism turned into a religion. Its disgusting the way European elites allowed Jews to operate an Apartheid system in Medieval Europe. But Orthodox Judaism is hardly the main source of oppression in the world today. Islam is the biggest source of oppression in the world today.

No we will not be bullied into silence by the Muslim lovers. For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good infidels to remain silent.

[redcarpet]

That is the subject, why a certain group of people obsess about Israel while ignoring the terrible crimes committed by Muslims in neighbouring countries. Personally I would like to see us go to war with Saudi Arabia, but BDS of Saudi would be a good start. But Orthodox Judaism is hardly the main source of oppression in the world today. Islam is the biggest source of oppression in the world today.

No we will not be bullied into silence by the Muslim lovers. For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good infidels to remain silent.

Hear, hear. And dictatorship generally. And rejection of the Enlightenment