Clausewitz wrote:but SN's current negotiating position is a joke and, frankly, an insult to SLDs and the PUC and indeed all of PoFo. They're not offering cooperation, they're demanding assimilation.
I think you're taking the 2/3rds point too seriously, not that they don't want a certain mindset going in, but then again...so do you...
Clausewitz wrote:The SN is the one that's being stubborn - they're demanding that the largest parties in parliament bend over for them and accept most of their platform even while they'd be the smallest partner in their own coalition.
At this moment they are third in vote totals by one...possibly two votes depending on how serious Zyx is.
Are you saying that should the SN gain more votes that they would then be justified in their position?
I mean, at this point it seems the PUC is making the same kind of demand, and so far...from what I've read Vladimir, who appears to be the de facto party leader is quite willing to hear discussion. I don't think they'll fundamentally change their position on Foreign Policy for instance, but surely it could be softened. Same goes for the PUC and it's conservative social agenda. It might not change your position, but I think softening it for the coalition would be doable.
Clausewitz wrote:They demand this, even though such an option has no support in PUC and little support with mainline SLDs.
Well...again, your position has even less support in their ranks, and atm you only have one more vote than they do combined. It sounds more like a push to me. Further, MOST of the SLDs have been silent for days now, as far as I can tell the SLD factions include myself and Falx on one side, and Dillpill, Attica, and one other on the other. The other 10 SLD voters have been silent on all coalition talk. Including our fearless but absent leader.
Clausewitz wrote:The PNL has indicated that it is willing to moderate significant elements of its platform. The leadership of the CA and of the PNL are realists
Funny, I would call certain SLD members and the SN the realists. The PNL, while certainly not a tradional rightist party still represents certain monied interests that have been over represented for far too long. The CA is frankly a lesser imitation of the PNL.
Clausewitz wrote:The SLDs that dismiss grand coalitions with parties on PUC's right are at least as stubborn as anti-SN PUC members, since right-wing parties would not, I expect, make such absurd demands of the SLDs.
Well again, it appears that absurd is an arbitrary conclusion. Allying with those on the right who would not even blink at Imperialist interventions in the name of Freedom but whose true aims are enrichment of the monied interests seems completely absurd to me.
As the SLD, at least for now, seems willing to work along the lines of the above, considering our stated foreign policy goals, it seems I have little other choice but to look to the SN as the only party willing to ignore the wailing squalls of "Red this" and "Red that" and simply do what is right, for once.
"When do you ask yourself,
'Maybe everyone else isn't wrong for using the definitions of words; maybe I'm wrong for making up new definitions of words and then using them as crude slurs' -TiG