[Igor Antunov]

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You now need to earn at least $160K a year to rent anything in NYC

Earn less than six figures? Good luck scoring even a modest New York City apartment.

The median ask for a rental in Manhattan has skyrocketed to $3,925 a month ⁠— a staggering 31.9% year-over-year jump from April 2021 ⁠— according to Douglas Elliman’s latest market report.

That means, in order to apply for a city apartment, a renter would need to earn $157,000 per year, under the 40 times rent rule that landlords generally require.

https://nypost.com/2022/06/07/you-now-n ... ng-in-nyc/

Well there you go, you can have the money on hand but if you don't earn 40x more annually than monthly rent you can't rent. So if you earn 150k/year you're homeless in New York.

[Unthinking Majority]

Pretty sure if these same people were making 750k a year they'd still be living paycheck to paycheck because they are dumb spendy spenders.

[Igor Antunov]

Pretty sure if these same people were making 750k a year they'd still be living paycheck to paycheck because they are dumb spendy spenders.

They're greedy. The best way to make money fast is to have it invested in something aggressive working for you, i.e to spend it asap. So they over-leverage themselves trying to chase those tens of millions.

[Godstud]

You don't have huge masses of poor people who would overwhelm your health system... yet.

That's not an argument. USA has a 13% poverty rate and Canada has a 10% poverty rate. We just take better care of our poor people with social programs. Everyone is covered, already, so no one is going to "overwhelm the system".

Keep in mind in the United States there are no waiting lists for surgical procedures.

That's false. Wait time might be shorter, but they aren't as crazy as you likely imagine. At the same time, it all depends on your illness. Wait times can be VERY shot, or longer depending on what you are getting fixed. You'll wait longer for a knee operation, for instance, than a needed heart surgery. Triage. It's a thing.

A friend recently returned to Canada as he needed stents for his kidney(transplanted many years ago). From the time he arrived in Canada, to the surgery, was less than 4 weeks, after testing and everything else. That's very quick, actually.... well within American times.

If you want a heart operation, they can do it next week if you want.

Not always.

They estimated waiting time between 6 and 846 days (61, as average).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4585383/

That said, how much will you pay for it?
Heart bypass surgery typically costs about $70,000-$200,000 or more, and heart valve replacement surgery typically costs $80,000-$200,000 or more.
https://health.costhelper.com/heart-sur ... 0or%20more.

Canada? FREE

American doctors will not hesitate to spend any amount of money on you (unless you are in an HMO plan).

That's not the doctors. That's the hospitals. Of course doctors should be trying to get you the best healthcare they can. It's their job.

Probably Veterans Affairs Healthcare is the closest thing in the U.S. that exists to Canadian healthcare, but it has had many scandals and a bit of a dubious reputation.

It is still better than the private healthcare, since it doesn't drive people into bankruptcy(50% of all bankruptcies are due to medical bills).

Most Americans know very little about Canadian healthcare, but Canadian healthcare is STILL ranked higher for outcomes and efficiency. Note: Infant mortality in USA is much higher, and Americans have a lower life expectancy.

[Puffer Fish]

but Canadian healthcare is STILL ranked higher for outcomes and efficiency.

That's not entirely true. American healthcare still has better outcomes, for those who can access it.

I've said this several times before... America is like a First World country existing side by side in parallel with a Third World country. That goes a long way in explaining why it seems to be an aberration in the statistics of world countries.

If you combined any other First World and Third World countries into the same calculations, the statistics would look similar.

[Puffer Fish]

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You now need to earn at least $160K a year to rent anything in NYC

Already discussed in this thread:

The rise of the professional class in big cities - and others getting pushed out
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[BlutoSays]

Pretty sure if these same people were making 750k a year they'd still be living paycheck to paycheck because they are dumb spendy spenders.

+1

[pugsville]

That's not entirely true. American healthcare still has better outcomes, for those who can access it.

I've said this several times before... America is like a First World country existing side by side in parallel with a Third World country. That goes a long way in explaining why it seems to be an aberration in the statistics of world countries.

If you combined any other First World and Third World countries into the same calculations, the statistics would look similar.

Outcomes outside of the very Rich the US does worse. and over all much worse despite spending twice the money.

[Godstud]

That's not entirely true. American healthcare still has better outcomes, for those who can access it.

It is true. You wish it were otherwise, but you rely on false information or straight out make false statements.

Overall, the results favored Canadians, who were 5 percent less likely than Americans to die in the course of treatment. Some disorders, such as kidney failure, favored Canadians more strongly than Americans, whereas others, such as hip fracture, had slightly better outcomes in the U.S. than in Canada. Of the 38 studies the authors surveyed, which were winnowed down from a pool of thousands, 14 favored Canada, five the U.S., and 19 yielded mixed results.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... n%20Canada.

[late]

If you combined any other First World and Third World countries into the same calculations, the statistics would look similar.

No stat guy would ever do that, doesn't make sense.

Neither does our health care system. Which is why we have the highest costs and mediocre outcomes...