- 01 Oct 2009 19:29
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Why are we threatening Iran? They are not, and never have threatened us or Israel with nukes. Simple question.
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The Guardian wrote:Iran yesterday defiantly showed off six of its new ballistic missiles daubed with anti-US and anti-Israel slogans in a move sure to reinforce international concern over the nature of its nuclear programme.
At the climax of a military parade marking the outbreak of the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war, the enormous Shehab-3 missiles were rolled out painted with the messages, "We will crush America under our feet' and "Israel must be wiped off the map."
Redcarpet, you can't tell me that the Guardian is Zionist propaganda.
Sun Tzu wrote:So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a thousand battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself
Oxymoron wrote:A Nuclear armed Iran is a Geopolitical threat.One can make an equally good case for US being a 'geopolitical threat' to the world. Should the world gang up and force us to disarm?
Ethan Bronner, NYT wrote:But translators in Tehran who work for the president's office and the foreign ministry disagree with them. All official translations of Mr. Ahmadinejad's statement, including a description of it on his Web site (www.president.ir/eng/), refer to wiping Israel away. Sohrab Mahdavi, one of Iran's most prominent translators, and Siamak Namazi, managing director of a Tehran consulting firm, who is bilingual, both say "wipe off" or "wipe away" is more accurate than "vanish" because the Persian verb is active and transitive.
Anti Jewish sentiment is a part of the Islamic religion. What do you expect from them? Expecting Mohammedans to be friends with Israel is like asking Jehovas Witnesses to worship alongside Lutherans - 'aint gonna happen. They will never forgive the Jews for the one who tried to poison their prophet.
We're simply taking Iran's leaders at their word that they wish to "wipe Israel off the map"...But they don't dare take either us or Israel at our word. They've already witnessed the U.S. actually wipe over 300,000 innocent civilian Iraqi neighbors, mostly women, children, and elderly, off the map over a period of less than a year and a half during Shock and Awe. Why should they take us at our word that they won't be next? Is it wrong for a nation to take steps to protect itself? Would the US leave itself undefended while some army from another hemisphere wiped out Canada or Mexico? The vain blindness with which Americans and Israelis perceive themselves is fucking preposterous.
Our dear Imam said that the occupying regime must be wiped off the map and this was a very wise statement. We cannot compromise over the issue of Palestine. Is it possible to create a new front in the heart of an old front. This would be a defeat and whoever accepts the legitimacy of this regime [Israel] has in fact, signed the defeat of the Islamic world. Our dear Imam targeted the heart of the world oppressor in his struggle, meaning the occupying regime. I have no doubt that the new wave that has started in Palestine, and we witness it in the Islamic world too, will eliminate this disgraceful stain from the Islamic world. But we must be aware of tricks.http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/30/weekinreview/30iran.html?_r=1&ex=1146715200&en=d7aeab711a8d3ecf&ei=5070
Demosthenes wrote:Iran isn't now, nor has it ever been any real threat. The ties to "terrorism" are tenuous, at best and a matter of definition, at worst. The real threat is exactly the reverse. The US and it's multinational oil companies and multinational whatever else desperately chomping at the Iranian rear end. There IS more to the West's (and specifically the US's) interests in Iran, but this is the biggest part of it.
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