- 23 Dec 2016 23:50
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There is no occupied Jerusalem although I would agree to give some parts of EJ to het rid of most of the Palestinians in that area.
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Zionist Nationalist wrote:There is no occupied Jerusalem although I would agree to give some parts of EJ to het rid of most of the Palestinians in that area.
anarchist23 wrote:Israel is a pariah state that doesn't abide to International Law.
anarchist23 wrote:Under International Law, Palestine is recognised as a state. The Zionists can say that Palestine isn't a state but the law is the law. Their denial of this fact just shows how ignorant the Zionists are of International Law. Now the UN has declared that the Israeli settlements in the West Bank are illegal and again the ignorant Zionists are in denial. lol
The Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States is a treaty signed at Montevideo, Uruguay, on December 26, 1933, during the Seventh International Conference of American States. The Convention codifies the declarative theory of statehood as accepted as part of customary international law. At the conference, United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt and Secretary of State Cordell Hull declared the Good Neighbor Policy, which opposed U.S. armed intervention in inter-American affairs. The convention was signed by 19 states. The acceptance of three of the signatories was subject to minor reservations. Those states were Brazil, Peru and the United States.
The convention became operative on December 26, 1934. It was registered in League of Nations Treaty Series on January 8, 1936.
The convention sets out the definition, rights and duties of statehood. Most well-known is article 1, which sets out the four criteria for statehood that have been recognized by international organizations as an accurate statement of customary international law:
The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications: (a) a permanent population; (b) a defined territory; (c) government; and (d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states.
Furthermore, the first sentence of article 3 explicitly states that "The political existence of the state is independent of recognition by the other states." This is known as the declarative theory of statehood.
A basic point should be emphasized: Article 1 is qualified by Article 11 because it prohibits using military force to gain recognition of sovereignty. Furthermore, Article 11 reflects the contemporary Stimson Doctrine, and is now a fundamental part of international law through article 2 paragraph 4 of the Charter of the United Nations.
Some have questioned whether these criteria are sufficient, as they allow less-recognized entities like the Republic of China (Taiwan) to claim full status as states. According to the alternative constitutive theory of statehood, a state exists only insofar as it is recognized by other states. It should not be confused with the Estrada doctrine.
136 countries already formally recognize a Palestinian state. Those 136 nations have a combined population of more than 5.5 billion people.
anarchist23 wrote:The Montevideo Convention is internationally recognised and it lays down the criteria for statehood.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montevideo_Convention
foxdemon wrote:
If Palestine can be recognised as a state but Taiwan can't, even though it clearly qualifies, goes to show there is something seriously wrong with the global system. To put it another way, the Montevideo Convention has less worth than toilet paper.
As of 14 September 2015, 136 (70.5%) of the 193 member states of the United Nations and two non-member states have recognised the State of Palestine. Many of the countries that do not recognise the State of Palestine nevertheless recognise the PLO as the "representative of the Palestinian people".
According to Wikipedia (Foreign relations of Taiwan), 22 countries or entities currently have full diplomatic relations with the ROC: Africa (3 states): Burkina Faso, São Tomé and Príncipe, Swaziland. Europe (1 states): Holy See. Oceania (6 states): Kiribati, Marshall Islands, Nauru, Palau, Solomon Islands, Tuval
the law is the law
This isn't a thread about anarchy.
the law is the law
layman wrote:Said no anarchist ever :P
layman wrote:In fact why are you so keen on it being a state anyway when you think states and patriotism are stupid?
Zionist Nationalist wrote:Taiwan is more state than Palestine will ever be
Taiwan deserve recognition. Palestine is a fake entity used as a tool against Israel
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