- 26 Oct 2019 15:50
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China desires to trade with other nations in Asia such as Japan, South Korea, DPRK, Russia, Vietnam, and Laos. They are trading with each other due to various needs of natural resources, labour needs, and exchanges of talented labour, such as medical assistance or engineering.
The Chinese economy is less nationalized because its government is run by revisionists, unlike the Soviet Union.
Usually when people become victimized, it is their fault. They are offending the politics of their leaders. Socialists got oppressed under the Tsar in the Russian Empire because they offended the non socialist politics of the Tsar. So they left the Tsar, but could not leave the land, because other nations, such as the German Empire, or Austria-Hungary, were also under capitalist and monarchist rule. So how did they get away from the Tsar? By overthrowing their capitalist power and establishing a socialist government.
Look at Russia today - Crime, graffiti, neo Nazi gangs, domestic abuse defended by capitalist economic rule, and home break ins. I would rather live under an "oppressor" then be "free" around those who can do whatever they want to or around me. Many of the people in the Soviet Union are aggressive due to their culture or eugenics. This is a characteristic of how they are not socialists - They are masculine, and need religion to motivate them from not going crazy and causing crime or social chaos.
Russia is far worse because of all the criminals that are roaming around.
A socialist country cannot be "created" unless the majority of the occupants/population are socialists. A socialist economy composed of a non socialist people majority would turn into a catastrophe - The Balkans is a great example. Where crime, mob culture, mafias, and neo Nazism dominate the crime infested streets.
Socialism is not an "idea." This is a non socialist viewpoint of socialism. This is due to non socialists not being able to fully understand socialism, thus labeling socialism as an "idea" to make it easier for them and other non socialists to comprehend. Socialism is an ideology, but not an "idea."
Socialism is gaining real consciousness. Realizing that religion, family, marriage, money, and the concepts of value and social hierarchies were created by elites to manipulate the masses, to prevent them from realizing that they are under class rule for economic exploitation and to be controlled. Religion manipulates people by preventing them from going against the bourgeoisie. It does so in a deep, psychological, subconscious manner, that could take multiple generations to get away from. This is why the Soviet Union accepted religion more in its earlier years (1920's to the 1950's, coming from a religious Russian Empire). Family is a manipulative tool that is used to keep the masses distracted, stressed, and less healthy, since family is the first thing that brings one down, and people who are more family oriented tend to live shorter lives with more heart problems due to the regular stresses that family conditions onto each other, but they do not realize that because they lack real consciousness. The Soviet Union was family oriented, Stalin promoted the family institution. Many people there needed family nurturing to motivate them to work because they are not socialists.
Social hierarchies are manipulated onto people since they come out of their mothers' wombs. They are manipulated, taught, nurtured, socially conditioned, and "peer pressured." One cause of socially manipulated social hierarchies is a masculine culture, which Stalin also promoted. A socially masculine culture, which is what both the Soviet Union and the United States (anti socialist since the 1940's) promoted a competitive, following to follower environment, where both women and men were socially alienated.
The people in Russia and in Eastern Europe are more socialist psychologically than Americans. Social Media, which is capitalist culture and products, proves this. vk, a Russian website, is not as competitive as American website Facebook. vk does not value things and alienates its members as much as American Facebook does.
late wrote:2) The modern world is a result of cooperation between government, business, and knowledge institutions. You can say you are using capitalism to get to socialism; but what I hear is wishful thinking. China is following a well established pattern in Asia, capitalism with autocratic rule.
China desires to trade with other nations in Asia such as Japan, South Korea, DPRK, Russia, Vietnam, and Laos. They are trading with each other due to various needs of natural resources, labour needs, and exchanges of talented labour, such as medical assistance or engineering.
3) Of course, but nowhere near as much as was the case in Soviet Russia.
The Chinese economy is less nationalized because its government is run by revisionists, unlike the Soviet Union.
4) You keep saying that, and while it is funny, it's quite impossible to take seriously. We have a saying that describes what you are doing: Blame the victim.
Usually when people become victimized, it is their fault. They are offending the politics of their leaders. Socialists got oppressed under the Tsar in the Russian Empire because they offended the non socialist politics of the Tsar. So they left the Tsar, but could not leave the land, because other nations, such as the German Empire, or Austria-Hungary, were also under capitalist and monarchist rule. So how did they get away from the Tsar? By overthrowing their capitalist power and establishing a socialist government.
Soviet Russia was an autocratic bureaucracy. Most of the things it said about itself were not true. It wasn't socialist or communist. The people were brutally repressed.
Look at Russia today - Crime, graffiti, neo Nazi gangs, domestic abuse defended by capitalist economic rule, and home break ins. I would rather live under an "oppressor" then be "free" around those who can do whatever they want to or around me. Many of the people in the Soviet Union are aggressive due to their culture or eugenics. This is a characteristic of how they are not socialists - They are masculine, and need religion to motivate them from not going crazy and causing crime or social chaos.
Russia is far worse because of all the criminals that are roaming around.
There is potential in a discussion about how we might create a country that was actually socialist.
A socialist country cannot be "created" unless the majority of the occupants/population are socialists. A socialist economy composed of a non socialist people majority would turn into a catastrophe - The Balkans is a great example. Where crime, mob culture, mafias, and neo Nazism dominate the crime infested streets.
There are a lot of ideas, what I don't see is much interest in turning them into reality.
Socialism is not an "idea." This is a non socialist viewpoint of socialism. This is due to non socialists not being able to fully understand socialism, thus labeling socialism as an "idea" to make it easier for them and other non socialists to comprehend. Socialism is an ideology, but not an "idea."
Socialism is gaining real consciousness. Realizing that religion, family, marriage, money, and the concepts of value and social hierarchies were created by elites to manipulate the masses, to prevent them from realizing that they are under class rule for economic exploitation and to be controlled. Religion manipulates people by preventing them from going against the bourgeoisie. It does so in a deep, psychological, subconscious manner, that could take multiple generations to get away from. This is why the Soviet Union accepted religion more in its earlier years (1920's to the 1950's, coming from a religious Russian Empire). Family is a manipulative tool that is used to keep the masses distracted, stressed, and less healthy, since family is the first thing that brings one down, and people who are more family oriented tend to live shorter lives with more heart problems due to the regular stresses that family conditions onto each other, but they do not realize that because they lack real consciousness. The Soviet Union was family oriented, Stalin promoted the family institution. Many people there needed family nurturing to motivate them to work because they are not socialists.
Social hierarchies are manipulated onto people since they come out of their mothers' wombs. They are manipulated, taught, nurtured, socially conditioned, and "peer pressured." One cause of socially manipulated social hierarchies is a masculine culture, which Stalin also promoted. A socially masculine culture, which is what both the Soviet Union and the United States (anti socialist since the 1940's) promoted a competitive, following to follower environment, where both women and men were socially alienated.
The people in Russia and in Eastern Europe are more socialist psychologically than Americans. Social Media, which is capitalist culture and products, proves this. vk, a Russian website, is not as competitive as American website Facebook. vk does not value things and alienates its members as much as American Facebook does.