- 23 May 2020 15:01
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Turkish army will be permanently there. I don't think anyone will be allowed to attack our bases and troops.
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Zionist Nationalist wrote:Israel is secretly cheering for Turkey
its will be best if Turkish army will stay in Syria
Let's not make assumptions or fast conclusions. Because he still hasn't lost.
GNA may have numerical and technological advance, but Haftars forces are battle hardened warriors,
Hellas me ponas wrote:Well although that is true and indeed under ottoman empire the balkans were one of the most prosperous regions of the planet at that time, that only lasted until 1566 (Suleiman's the Magnificent death), because after that when the ottoman state started failing and declining that also had social and economic effect on the peoples who lived under ottoman rule (including the middle east). Middle East is what it is today for 2 reasons, 1st The ottoman corrupted and declining state 2nd the Europeans who decided to keep the Sick Man of Europe alive because they had no idea on how to split it, thus middle east and balkams kept on being ruled by a tottaly failed, corrupted and inefficient state for another 350 years.
skinster wrote:Perhaps that's true, but unsure this has anything to do with my comment.
JohnRawls wrote:@Potemkin
Lybie is indeed a perfect example of creative chaos. The objective in Lybia wasn't imperealism, it was simply to get rid of Qadaffi and destabilise the country so it won't resist the French. The main reasons Qadaffi was killed is because he was resisting French influence in Africa and was putting a wrench in their plans.
Potemkin wrote:Indeed. It was Sarkozy who was the main driving force behind the destruction of Qadaffi's Libya (both the regime and the nation). Sarkozy got the Brits on board, who in turn got the Americans on board, and then it was on....
Atlantis wrote:I think the decline of the Muslim world may have started with the Ottoman conquest. The Ottomans were nomads that expanded from Asia Minor after the collapse of the Mongol empire. Like the Mongols, they were good at conquering culturally more advanced people around the Mediterranean. In the East, the Mongols and Manchus conquered China to rule the country as a foreign warrior class. In the West, the Ottomans did the same to the MENA. During the Yuan (Mongol) and Qing (Manchu) dynasties Chinese culture stagnated and fell behind the West. While Ottoman rule managed to administer a huge empire, it failed to renew the cultural and scientific traditions of the Arab golden age.
While the European Renaissance took a giant step forward with book printing and other innovations, the Ottomans prohibited the printing press, and even though they imported innovative technology from Europe, like cannon building, they failed to develop these technologies while European powers continually improved their technology.
As a small foreign ruling class, these nomad warriors were more interested in consolidating their power than in cultural or scientific innovations to improve their nation in the competition with other nations.
This makes one wonder if people ever learn. Erdogan is turning his back on science, preferring obscure theories and the teaching of jihad to the teaching of evolution. Talented academics in Turkey are driven into internal or external exile or put into prison.
Potemkin wrote:Indeed. It was Sarkozy who was the main driving force behind the destruction of Qadaffi's Libya (both the regime and the nation). Sarkozy got the Brits on board, who in turn got the Americans on board, and then it was on....
noemon wrote:You thought the same thing about Syria but you capitulated to Assad and gave up territory just a few months ago. The more you put yourselves up for adventures, the more the national shame you will feel when losing and the more the evil you will be doing, you have gone down a dark path attacking all your neighbours. You have no international support by anybody, no Russia, no America, no Europe, no China.
You have set yourselves up for ridicule and failure. And no good will come of this.
Istanbuller wrote:Turkey did not capitulate to anyone. Turkey's operation in Idlib left thousands of Assad and Iranian troops dead and Russian systems broken. Turkey retreated because of risk of dicrect conflict arose betwwen Turkey and Russia. We have some purchase agreements with Russian which we did not want to risk for now.
We will hit harder when it is right time, no matter who we are facing.
Turkey Headed For An Unexpected Victory Libya's Oil War
Source: https://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/Africa ... l-War.html
Istanbuller wrote:Turkey is granted to do oil exploration and drilling activities on behalf of Libyan government. Very good news. It will be a lifeblood to our weakened economy.
Now it made me sure that we are going to remain in Libya for a very long time.
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