- 26 Apr 2021 22:21
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I want to see just how far your subjectivism gets to.
It is indeed, but so what? Your position on transracialism is also reactionary then.
I don't think it's an important question.
Why are the TERF wrong? Or, instead, why would one assume similar types of foul-play when some person is claiming to be Black?
Indeed, but not everyone would agree about that. Even on the left.
Interesting, finally a much more consistent position. Then tell me, why would it matter if someone declares to be transracial? After all, there are no government benefits involved here.
I do not see a reason to care about how one identifies as if this has no bearing on how the government, acting on behalf of the taxpayer, will treat that person or others. If the government is kept out of this issue in all ways, and whatever standard will be applied in a non-discriminatory way, then I have no problems with any trans-identity you may want to claim.
ckaihatsu wrote:Cute -- now you're conflating objective (physical) reality, with objective *social* reality.
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I want to see just how far your subjectivism gets to.
ckaihatsu wrote:Okay, let's nail down some definitions here....
Obviously my position *conflicts* with the TERF position, since any transphobic position, like the TERF one, is *reactionary*.
It is indeed, but so what? Your position on transracialism is also reactionary then.
ckaihatsu wrote:So you concur with the reactionary TERF position that gender identity is a lifestyle choice, and is not involuntary.
I don't think it's an important question.
ckaihatsu wrote:I'm not addressing your imaginary hypothetical scenario -- I'm here for the politics, which is all-about the 'should'.
ckaihatsu wrote:I'm not 'complaining' about anything on this thread, contrary to your imputation. (What am I "complaining" about, or are you just using a caricature / stereotype of my politics in a wantonly disparaging way?)
I don't agree with the TERF accusation of transgendered-based opportunism.
Why are the TERF wrong? Or, instead, why would one assume similar types of foul-play when some person is claiming to be Black?
ckaihatsu wrote:And so I have -- I've said repeatedly that gender identity is involuntary, and I referenced Wikipedia.
Indeed, but not everyone would agree about that. Even on the left.
ckaihatsu wrote:The far left position (nominally) is to provide government benefits for *all*, regardless of social identity, so that one's particular identity and/or work history has no bearing on one's experienced standard of living.
Interesting, finally a much more consistent position. Then tell me, why would it matter if someone declares to be transracial? After all, there are no government benefits involved here.
I do not see a reason to care about how one identifies as if this has no bearing on how the government, acting on behalf of the taxpayer, will treat that person or others. If the government is kept out of this issue in all ways, and whatever standard will be applied in a non-discriminatory way, then I have no problems with any trans-identity you may want to claim.