Bulaba Jones wrote:We should also keep in mind that Protestantism doesn't have it right, either. After all, the Bible is only true insofar as it is translated correctly.
I understand that, but Protestant Chistians are more right that Roman Catholics. I don't use any one translation alone, but check many translations, as well as the original Hebrew and Greek versions
Bulaba Jones wrote:Nearly 200 years ago, a great man by the name of Joseph Smith, who was dissatisfied with Protestant churches, decided to pray for guidance. He received a divine revelation, leading to the discovery of another testament of Jesus Christ: The Book of Mormon.
Yes, I know all about the lying Joseph Smith and his Satanic Book of Mormon. Don't waste your time with it. I have already wasted too much time checking out his lies too.
Bulaba Jones wrote:It's incredibly sacrilegious and disrespectful to God to make statements on behalf of Christ, like saying you know who will go to hell.
Not if Jesus tells you who those people are.
The Immortal Goon wrote:It should also be mentioned that the Vulgate Bible was compiled, edited, and put together by the Catholic Church under the authority of Church in having, "the the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven."
So to use the Bible is, ultimately, to concede that authority to the church.
The Vulgate is a late 4th century Latin translation of the Bible that became the Catholic Church's officially promulgated Latin version of the Bible during the 16th century.
I do not use that translation, so I do not accept the authority of the Roman Catholic Church. Anyway, Jesus did not give the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven to the Roman Catholic Church, but to His disciples who formed His Church.
"I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven."
Then He warned the disciples that they should tell no one that He was the Christ.(Matthew 16:19-20 NASB)
Later, as we skip on over to Matthew 18:17, we see that Jesus mentions the Church again and repeats basically the same thing to His disciples.
"If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven. Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven. For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst." (Matthew 18:17-20 NASB)
We know that the first Christian Church formed through His disciple, after the Resurrection, was in Jerusalem, not Rome, Italy.
Gathering them together, He commanded them not to leave Jerusalem, but to wait for what the Father had promised, "Which," He said, "you heard of from Me; for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now."
So when they had come together, they were asking Him, saying, "Lord, is it at this time You are restoring the kingdom to Israel?" He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or epochs which the Father has fixed by His own authority; but you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be My witnesses both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and even to the remotest part of the earth."
And after He had said these things, He was lifted up while they were looking on, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. (Acts 1:4-9 NASB)
http://www.cofcnet.org/?q=bible_studies ... ts_3_1_8_4Was the Apostle Peter Ever in the City of Rome?
The simple answer is no. For a longer answer see the following:
http://christianbeliefs.org/articles/peter&rome.htmlhttp://www.oodegr.com/english/papismos/ ... _rwmi1.htmBut even if by miracle, Peter did go to Rome, he certainly did not found a church there. That is another lie to support the lie from the Roman Catholic Church that Peter was the Rock instead of Jesus.
And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.(1 Corinthians 10:3-4 KJV)
So when Jesus said:
"I also tell you that you are Peter, and on this Rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.(Matthew 16:18 New Heart English Bible)
Jesus is using a play on words, with Peter being a small stone or rock. I can envision Jesus then pointing to his own chest and saying, "on
this Rock I will build my Church." So the Rock in both the Old and New Testament refers to God or the Messiah, Son of God.
The “rock” is that precise faith in the divinity of Jesus Christ; in other words, the “rock” upon which the Church is built - whose unique and irreplaceable foundation is the Person of the God-Man, our Lord - is NOT Peter, or any other person. “For no-one can place another foundation next to the existing one, which is Jesus Christ” (1 Cor.3:11, cf Ephes. 2:20), as the Apostle Paul will come to write. But even Peter himself was to proclaim that Jesus Christ is the “living stone” (1 Pet.2:4) and also stress that the faithful would be edified upon that very cornerstone, thus forming the spiritual edifice of the Church.
A physical church can be destroyed, but the spiritual Church can withstand the gates of hell. HalleluYah.