colliric wrote:Correction:
Philistine. It has always been called Philistine. That name was NOT from the Romans, that is what the Philistines called it, and the Romans restored the original name. Yes it originally referenced the area specifically known as the Gaza Strip, but the Jews did the same thing with Judea too. Originally refered to the region around Jerusalem, then later the whole country.
Yes…and no… Yes, the Philistines called it that, - Philistia, but…no, - no Philistines were left around by the time the Romans got around to rename Judea. All Philistines disappeared at the time of David, about a 1000 years before Jesus. Therefore, it was a political ploy on the part of the Romans, - rename the land and exile the people was their common practice, - they did this often.
I hope you see that your assertion that “It has always been called Philistine” is absolutely wrong! Judea was an established kingdom at the TIME when Philistines were around. The Jews, or shall we call them Israelites, fought Philistines and defeated them and then absorbed those who survived. Philistine culture, language, customs, - all disappeared 3000 years ago. Modern day Arabs have nothing to do with ancient Philistines. Romans knew that by their own assertions (Josephus) and they renamed Judea for political expediency. All historians agree here.
colliric wrote:Also the Roman-Jewish wars was started by the Jewish Sanhedrin who supported Terrorist organisations called the Zealots and the Sicarii which killed Romans living there(was already in the Roman Empire), Jews sympathetic to non-Jews, Samaritans and Greeks living in that land.
You are wrong. Talmud (Sanhedrin) does mention Zealots and Sicarii, but not in the context that you are making out. Talmud is critical of them due to the fear of antagonizing Romans. There is a debate in the Talmud reading which way to proceed, - to fight the Romans or not. The Roman-Jewish wars were never started by the Jews.
The Jews were never strong enough to start the war. Yes, there were rebellions, with Simon bar Kokhba being the most successful one, but ultimately they were short lived. The Romans rolled over Judea in the same manner they rolled over the local tribes in Britain or Gal or Germania. Roman-Judean wars were what Josephus called it, because he was ‘speaking’ to the Roman audience! The Rabbis in the Talmud never called those event wars, - they called them uprisings.
Again, the Jews did not start the war, although many wanted to do it, Rabbi Akiva comes to mind, but they never physically could.
I can see plainly that you never studied Talmud in a proper setting. You might have read some of it, very little really, it in translation, but you never studied it. Sanhedrin alone are many books! At the minimum I suggest a university course. If you are in the States, it is Brandeis or Colombia. It would take a minimum of 5 years. Good luck!
colliric wrote:The Talmud BLAMES THEM, not the Romans, for the destruction of the Jewish Temple and the expulsion from Judea, and is supported in this assertion by Josephus AND surprisingly by the Christian New Testament.
You are wrong! The Talmud does not blame them. Those are untutored Christian interpretations. They are untutored, because the Church fathers worked from translations and had an agenda! We both know what that agenda was!
The Talmud in many places emphasis that the temple fell due the ‘brotherly hatred’, implying that the Jews could not unite against common enemy and hated each other in a Monty Python style (Life of Brian). Zealots and Sicarii were blamed for inciting the ‘brotherly hatred’. Their numbers were small, less than a hundred, but they did a lot... and killed a good number of people!
You can’t read Talmud! You must study it! You clearly do not know the subject matter, and, believe me, if you ever say what you are saying in a polite company of a University setting, you’d be ridiculed.
colliric wrote:When was the last time you opened the Talmud???
Once a week, for the past 30 years and still barely scratched the surface. With others. ‘Hevruta’ style, like it’s been done since 9th century, with a scholar of significant reputation leading the class. No translation, - we read the original.
How do you do it?