Recep Erdogan no longer satisfies the collective West, led by the United States - Politics Forum.org | PoFo

Wandering the information superhighway, he came upon the last refuge of civilization, PoFo, the only forum on the internet ...

Political issues and parties in the nations of the Middle East.

Moderator: PoFo Middle-East Mods

Forum rules: No one line posts please. This is an international political discussion forum moderated in English, so please post in English only. Thank you.
#15271677
The United States and Europe actively despise and ridicule the President of Turkey in the media.
That's offensive.
They have already organized a provocation with an Erdogan-doll and Quran-burning in Sweden, and even announced a competition for the wittiest insult to the President of Turkey. All because of the upcoming presidential and national elections scheduled for May 14, where the United States and the European Union will be on the side of the pro-Western opposition.
Image
The support of voters for Recep Tayyip Erdogan is growing in all polls conducted before this year's elections in Turkey. Some analysts say the West, whose hopes of overthrowing the country's leader are fading, has gone on the attack again.
Western governments call the elections in Turkey the most important this year and openly support the opposition.
The United States notoriously does not recognize the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) / The People's Defense Units - Yekîneyên Parastina Gel (YPG) a terrorist organization, unlike Turkey. The USA encourages them.
Western media keep a close eye on the current events in Turkey.
But they neglect the principle of impartiality in their own texts and openly publish defamatory articles against Erdogan.
Hostility towards Turkey has returned in the media of the United States and the Old World. By engaging in opinion-building operations against Erdogan, the Western press is trying to bring the opposition to the fore.
The fact that the Western media is so opposed to Ankara is based on Turkey's decisive position. It does not deviate from national interests in such matters as defense, security, foreign policy. In the field of counter-terrorism in Syria and Iraq, Turkey does not take steps back.
The Bloomberg analysis notes that the impact of the Turkish elections will be felt in the capitals of the Old World, as well as in relations between the United States and Russia, in Central Asia, the Middle East and Africa.
In Western states, hostility towards Erdogan is being fomented to destroy this influence of Turkey in international politics.
Turkish opposition obeys orders from the White House
So says the deputy chairman of the today's governing Justice and Development Party (AKP) Muhammet Emin Akbashoglu. The Republican People's Party, in his opinion, is trying to fulfill the order to overthrow Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, received from Washington.
“The Republican People's Party understands that it is carrying out an order given to them somewhere, instructions given from the palaces. What kind of palace is this? Of course, the White House. It is an undoubted fact that the opposition, trying to fulfill the order to overthrow Tayyip Erdogan, will never benefit our country,” Akbashoglu said.
Recall that US President Joe Biden, before becoming such, at the beginning of 2020, in an interview with the New York Times, stated that the US administration needed to have a direct connection with the Turkish opposition, “put it in a stronger position so that it could defeat Erdogan". After that, the current American leader was going to extract as many benefits as possible.
Recall that during November-December 2021, when David Satterfield's term as US Ambassador to Turkey was coming to an end, he held more than one meeting with the leaders of the main opposition parties. But on December 18, he talked with the mayor of Istanbul, a member of the Republican People's Party, Ekrem Imamoglu.
Image
The meeting with the US Ambassador to Turkey, Jeffrey Flake, was held in March 2023 by the leader of the Republican People's Party, presidential candidate from the Turkish opposition alliance, Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu. The meeting took place in Kılıçdaroğlu's office at the headquarters of his party. The Republican People's Party leader was accompanied by his chief adviser Unal Cheviköz.
According to the official version, during the conversation with the Turkish presidential candidate, the American ambassador expressed solidarity and condolences on behalf of Washington in connection with Turkey's losses from the earthquake.
Opposition and a little bit of Gülen
He was once a very influential representative of the opposition and the clergy in Turkey. However, since 1999 he has been living in the United States, and since 2016 he has been wanted by the Turkish authorities. He is believed to be involved in the 2016 coup attempt against Erdogan.
Thousands of Turkish citizens were arrested on charges of involvement in a conspiracy against the president and in connection with Gülen, many teachers, doctors and intellectuals lost their jobs. The ex-imam is called the main enemy of Erdogan.
The focus of attention in the American and European press is usually on similar topics. The West is making efforts to stop Ankara from realizing its interests in the international arena. On the other hand, the opposition circles in Turkey are also similarly involved in the defamatory propaganda spread in the world media. Here are some examples.
Western media are targeting the Turkish defense industry. Recently, opposition circles in Turkey have also begun to smear Turkish drones’ reputation at every opportunity.
While the West is trying to derail Turkey's fight against terrorism in Syria, opposition circles are saying no to mandates for military missions.
Europe wants to prevent Turkish support for Azerbaijan. The so-called opposition at the first opportunity pounces on the presence of the Turkish military in Azerbaijan.
Especially the EU member states are making active efforts to annul the agreement on maritime zones concluded by Turkey with Libya. Opponents of the Turkish government say: "What are we doing in Libya?"
While Europe wants to deprive Turkey of its rights in the Eastern Mediterranean, the opposition circles in Turkey, on the one hand, are blocking the solution in Cyprus on the basis of the two-state principle, on the other hand, indirectly defending the arguments of Greece.
Another indicator of the hypocrisy of the Western media is interviews. The floor is often given to terrorists, and Turkish officials are interviewed very few times by the same press. As one of the latest examples, the French media spoke with the leader of the terrorists Ferhat Abdi. Abdi, who was handed a microphone by the newspaper Le Point. Abdi pleaded with the US and France for help to confront Turkey, saying: "It is very difficult for us to resist."
#15271678
Juergi_Krause wrote:They have already organized a provocation with an Erdogan-doll and Quran-burning in Sweden


I'm sorry, let me stop you right there. Organized? As people in power or government set those in motion? The exact opposite, dude.

The hanging of an Erdogan-doll was conducted by a Kurdish political group and far-left allies. It was condemned by the entire government, including the Prime Minister, all of whom were powerless to stop it. Difficult concept to understand, I'm sure.

The burning of the Quran was done by a far-right provocateur with ties to Russia. The police did give him permission to demonstrate where he did it but he could as easily have stood 50 meters away and done it anyway. Once again, it was condemned but everyone was powerless to stop it.

Erdogan will whine, the sun will rise tomorrow and eventually Sweden will be in NATO anyway. I wish it wasn't so, but I've given up on hoping for the impossible. Fools will be fools in every part of the world.
#15271681
Juergi_Krause wrote:

Western governments call the elections in Turkey the most important this year and openly support the opposition.


But they neglect the principle of impartiality in their own texts and openly publish defamatory articles against Erdogan.





They're not actually elections, because Erdogan can't lose...

Defamatory implies slander. It's not slander when it's true...
#15271689
Juergi_Krause wrote:The United States and Europe actively despise and ridicule the President of Turkey in the media.
That's offensive.
They have already organized a provocation with an Erdogan-doll and Quran-burning in Sweden, and even announced a competition for the wittiest insult to the President of Turkey. All because of the upcoming presidential and national elections scheduled for May 14, where the United States and the European Union will be on the side of the pro-Western opposition.
Image
The support of voters for Recep Tayyip Erdogan is growing in all polls conducted before this year's elections in Turkey. Some analysts say the West, whose hopes of overthrowing the country's leader are fading, has gone on the attack again.
Western governments call the elections in Turkey the most important this year and openly support the opposition.
The United States notoriously does not recognize the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) / The People's Defense Units - Yekîneyên Parastina Gel (YPG) a terrorist organization, unlike Turkey. The USA encourages them.
Western media keep a close eye on the current events in Turkey.
But they neglect the principle of impartiality in their own texts and openly publish defamatory articles against Erdogan.
Hostility towards Turkey has returned in the media of the United States and the Old World. By engaging in opinion-building operations against Erdogan, the Western press is trying to bring the opposition to the fore.
The fact that the Western media is so opposed to Ankara is based on Turkey's decisive position. It does not deviate from national interests in such matters as defense, security, foreign policy. In the field of counter-terrorism in Syria and Iraq, Turkey does not take steps back.
The Bloomberg analysis notes that the impact of the Turkish elections will be felt in the capitals of the Old World, as well as in relations between the United States and Russia, in Central Asia, the Middle East and Africa.
In Western states, hostility towards Erdogan is being fomented to destroy this influence of Turkey in international politics.
Turkish opposition obeys orders from the White House
So says the deputy chairman of the today's governing Justice and Development Party (AKP) Muhammet Emin Akbashoglu. The Republican People's Party, in his opinion, is trying to fulfill the order to overthrow Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, received from Washington.
“The Republican People's Party understands that it is carrying out an order given to them somewhere, instructions given from the palaces. What kind of palace is this? Of course, the White House. It is an undoubted fact that the opposition, trying to fulfill the order to overthrow Tayyip Erdogan, will never benefit our country,” Akbashoglu said.
Recall that US President Joe Biden, before becoming such, at the beginning of 2020, in an interview with the New York Times, stated that the US administration needed to have a direct connection with the Turkish opposition, “put it in a stronger position so that it could defeat Erdogan". After that, the current American leader was going to extract as many benefits as possible.
Recall that during November-December 2021, when David Satterfield's term as US Ambassador to Turkey was coming to an end, he held more than one meeting with the leaders of the main opposition parties. But on December 18, he talked with the mayor of Istanbul, a member of the Republican People's Party, Ekrem Imamoglu.
Image
The meeting with the US Ambassador to Turkey, Jeffrey Flake, was held in March 2023 by the leader of the Republican People's Party, presidential candidate from the Turkish opposition alliance, Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu. The meeting took place in Kılıçdaroğlu's office at the headquarters of his party. The Republican People's Party leader was accompanied by his chief adviser Unal Cheviköz.
According to the official version, during the conversation with the Turkish presidential candidate, the American ambassador expressed solidarity and condolences on behalf of Washington in connection with Turkey's losses from the earthquake.
Opposition and a little bit of Gülen
He was once a very influential representative of the opposition and the clergy in Turkey. However, since 1999 he has been living in the United States, and since 2016 he has been wanted by the Turkish authorities. He is believed to be involved in the 2016 coup attempt against Erdogan.
Thousands of Turkish citizens were arrested on charges of involvement in a conspiracy against the president and in connection with Gülen, many teachers, doctors and intellectuals lost their jobs. The ex-imam is called the main enemy of Erdogan.
The focus of attention in the American and European press is usually on similar topics. The West is making efforts to stop Ankara from realizing its interests in the international arena. On the other hand, the opposition circles in Turkey are also similarly involved in the defamatory propaganda spread in the world media. Here are some examples.
Western media are targeting the Turkish defense industry. Recently, opposition circles in Turkey have also begun to smear Turkish drones’ reputation at every opportunity.
While the West is trying to derail Turkey's fight against terrorism in Syria, opposition circles are saying no to mandates for military missions.
Europe wants to prevent Turkish support for Azerbaijan. The so-called opposition at the first opportunity pounces on the presence of the Turkish military in Azerbaijan.
Especially the EU member states are making active efforts to annul the agreement on maritime zones concluded by Turkey with Libya. Opponents of the Turkish government say: "What are we doing in Libya?"
While Europe wants to deprive Turkey of its rights in the Eastern Mediterranean, the opposition circles in Turkey, on the one hand, are blocking the solution in Cyprus on the basis of the two-state principle, on the other hand, indirectly defending the arguments of Greece.
Another indicator of the hypocrisy of the Western media is interviews. The floor is often given to terrorists, and Turkish officials are interviewed very few times by the same press. As one of the latest examples, the French media spoke with the leader of the terrorists Ferhat Abdi. Abdi, who was handed a microphone by the newspaper Le Point. Abdi pleaded with the US and France for help to confront Turkey, saying: "It is very difficult for us to resist."


The West shits on every politician their own or outside, what is the problem? It is how the media works you know, free speech an all. Different points of view and different opinions on even similar solutions. FREEEEEEDOM!

Only somebody who is used to propaganda or autocratic-dictatorial society would post something that you did.

When you are done with your revisionist history a[…]

What if the attacks were a combination of "c[…]

Very dishonest to replace violent Israeli hooliga[…]

Kamala Harris was vile. Utterly vile! https://www[…]