Puffer Fish wrote:Traditional Muslims (who are from the Middle East) do tend to view Western European women as whores. Which is understandable, considering the differences in culture.
In traditional Middle Eastern culture, if a woman visits a man (who is not her relative) alone, it is assumed she is going to have sex with him. If a woman wears a bikini in public, she is a whore. If a woman goes to a bar and drinks alcohol with strange men present at the bar, it is assumed she is a slut and wants to sleep with men. Of course it is common in Western European culture for women to do things that go further than this.
Women in countries like the Netherlands and Sweden are especially notorious among Muslims for being whores.
What does the Liberal, what does the leftie see when they look at Islam? I'm leaving aside the completely moronic, the completely ignorant Liberal lefties here. Probably the first thing he sees is the architecture and decoration. That's stylish, that looks modern, says the liberal, so much better than that gawdy Catholic / Hindu stuff. if he's a more philosophical type he may be aware of the Islamic unity of God, so much more scientific, so much more rational, than that childish Christian and Hindu mythologies. Most Liberals have heard of the great contributions of the Muslims to mathematics and science, helping backwards Christian Europe out of their dark ages.
The leftie sees Muslim views on women and homosexuality as incidental to this wonderfully superior Muslim religion and culture. And anyway if a tiny, tiny, tiny minority of Muslims have some slight reactionary views on women, that's all the fault of evil White Imperialists.
The truth is that the Muslim's generally hideous views on women are absolutely fundamental to his religion. All attempts to establish a feminist Islam have failed and will fail. That is why secular Arab nationalism had been such a pathetic joke and is why the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Al Qaeda and Islamic State have been so successful.
We saw the same result from the Liberals attempt to create a new Muslim Switzerland in the Hindu Kush.