Pants-of-dog wrote:That seems vague and does not necessarily denote killing all the Jews, ir even destroying Israel.
And a few out of context quotes does not disprove the effects of settler colonialism.
You either of have severe reading comprehension issues or you're playing dumb in bad faith and acting as an apologist for Hamas and their jihadist terrorism and beliefs. You won't even denounce the massacre on Oct 7.
Out of context quotes? It's in the Hamas charter.
How is this vague?:
"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it".The Hamas Charter makes it very clear that they believe all the land "from the river to the sea" is Muslim Palestinian land and Israel needs to be vanquished through violent jihad. Oct 7 was an example, as are the rockets they launch constantly at Israeli civilians.
Nobody can take any of your points seriously because they so are often often filled with lies, deception, manipulation gaslighting, and arguments of bad faith. You could argue 2+2 = 5, and when someone pointed out that 2+2=4 you would call it vague and dismiss it. If at some point you decide to not be a manipulative gaslighting liar and want to actually have an honest debate please let me know.
Well, if you think people are lying and secretly hateful, then you should not bother interacting with them, seeing as how you will not interact with what they are explicitly saying,
Good advice, after this post I will no longer respond to your dishonest and jihad-apologist posts in this thread.
There is an occupation right now.
People in occupied lands will want to fight for their freedom.
So logically, this can easily be a call for freedom. The claim that it must mean genocide is an inference.
I'm sure there are some peace-loving pro-Palestine supporters who want a 2-state solution and want more justice in the West Bank and a ceasefire in Gaza etc. If they chant an anti-Zionist chant of ethnic cleansing then they're either naive and uneducated sheep who have no idea what they're saying or they're liars and anti-Zionists themselves. Either way, the onus is on them to not chant Hamas chants if they don't support those views.
The "call for freedom" is to eliminate Israel. It is to end Zionism and ethnically cleanse Jews from the region and give all control of the land "from the river to the sea" back to the Muslim settler colonialists who conquered Israel in 637 AD where it was later renamed "Palestine" (a historical fact)
Gaza was not occupied on Oct 6. Six months ago Palestinian jihadists invaded Israel and slaughtered every Jewish civilian, man/woman/child/elderly they could find until the IDF showed up to stop them. They brought ammo and food to last much longer. This was an act of genocide. If they had the power they would slaughter every Jew tomorrow. Israel has committed some atrocities and human rights abuses over the many decades including recently but they have had the power to murder every Muslim in Israel, Gaza, and the West Bank over the last 80 years and haven't. Arab nations have attacked Israel on more than 1 occasion in order to rid the region of them. The only reason Jews haven't been genocided by the Jew-hating Muslim fascists that surround them is the support of the US and western allies that help arm them for their defense.